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Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!



Steward Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Luis II

An Open Letter to Jacques Hébert posted:

Mr. Hébert,

Putting your crass immaturity aside I ask you plainly, how is it that you can accuse starving and poor Brittany of stealing food from France? If a poor man grows a small plot of grass to attempt to eat in order not to starve himself, and a large man with a gun, who is also fairly hungry but has a history of assaulting and robbing other men, comes over and demands the poor man give him his plot and its produce... is the poor man a thief who has stolen food from the large man with a gun? Is the large man with a gun acting justly if he shoots the other and takes is grass for himself? Is the poor man a villainous thief for asking that he be allowed to keep his meager and unfulfilling 'edibles' for himself which he has grown? Why does not the large man simply grow his own food and leave the poor man alone, or help him even! Why does France not leave Brittany, whom it tried to starve to death with unfair and racist taxes designed towards those ends, alone. Invading us will net you no food, for we do not even have enough for us to survive thanks to your efforts. Robbing a poor man does not get you wealth, nor is it a righteous act. Robbing Brittany and forcing us to submit to unjust oppression and subjugation against our nation's will does not net you wealth, nor is it a righteous act.

I submit to you and those willing to read and listen that you have lied and misrepresented this Duchy, its Steward, and its reality. I submit to you and those willing to read and listen that you are a most unjust man who has called for cruel and unjust invasion of a poor people attempting to live in peace with its neighbor France. I submit to you and those willing to read and listen that the people of France are not dumb and blind, and that they can recall my writings and the Parisian Laws of Sade and know that I speak truth.

You are too late in this endeavor, Mr. Hébert, for much has changed since 1789, and neither the French, nor the Occitans, nor the Bretons are willing to listen to the words of lying demagogues to points at a shack and tells them throwing their corpses upon it will turn it to gold, justly owed them. You are too late, for warmongers will now find it quite hard indeed to convince the noble Frenchmen that his Breton brother is his enemy, simply because he has freed himself from an oppressive government and gone down a separate parallel path that is more suited to his natural inclinations.

Signed,
Steward Charles Armand Tuffin of the Sovereign Independent Elective Duchy of Brittany, in Personal Union with the Kingdom of France under Luis II/Luis XVI

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!


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Jacques Hébert, Citizen of France
Editor of Le Pére Duchesne, Equal to All Frenchmen

A More Open Response to An Open Letter by Charles Armand Tuffin, Citizen of France, who calls Himself Marquis, Steward, among other fictional titles posted:

Monsieur Tuffin, I feel obliged to dispel your confusion: "Père Duchesne", whose words you seem to take a slight to, is but a fictional character, a work of fantasy and whim that serves as an endearing source of entertainment and information to the downtrodden people of France. This citizen has made no comment against your "rule".

I will, however, offer my comfort in making you aware that this confusion should not come as an embarrassment, for it is expected of a man who believes in notions such as nobility, royalty, divine right and other such works of wonder, to be troubled at the moment of defining the line between reality and fantasy.

I will, however, as Citizen of France, say this: Your excuses and shallow attempts at eliciting sympathy from the impoverished men and women of this country are just as empty as your claim to whichever throne or crown your entourage of noblemen has seen fit to entertain you with. You use as stepping stone for your "rebellion" a tax hike that does not exist. You claim to be like a poor man who is robbed at gunpoint, while it is you, and those who have shared your privilege for centuries, the one who plans to divert the money and food of the ailing breton peasants and workers towards your war machine. I say to this, non! You seek foreign aid to assist you in this robbery. I say to this, non! You buy the aristocrats and men of powdered faces swarming the court circles of Paris, you buy their inaction, their weakness and their obstructionism. I say to this, non! You condemn the people of Paris, Lyon, Marseilles, and yes, also Nantes and Rennes, to hunger and misery, under the excuse of the same tired reasons for feudal secession that plagued the Dark Ages. I say to this again and again, non! The days in which these things were accepted by the people in silence are over.

Yours truly,
Jacques Hébert,
your Equal.


edit- OOC:

A RICH WHITE MAN posted:

You should join #bop and #enrages!

I don't know how to do this! I am dumb.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009


SexyBlindfold posted:

I don't know how to do this! I am dumb.

You need an IRC client, mIRC is pretty good:
http://www.mirc.co.uk/get.html

Connect to the synIRC server (irc.synirc.net) and then use /join #bop

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!



Steward Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Luis II

An Even More Open Response to a More Open Response to an Open Letter to Jacques Hébert posted:

Mr. Hébert,

Hiding your vile lies, opinions, and insults behind pseudonyms doesn't protect you from having those vile lies, opinions, and insults called out. Whether I write my letters as myself or as a "Mr. Jones" or whatever other character I might concoct, the contents of said letters are my own responsibility, and when I write things I think and feel I do so honestly and do in fact take responsibility for those things I utter and set to ink. Why won't you?

Furthermore my 'attempts to elicit sympathy' from the people of France is but an attempt to explain to them our plight and ask for their aid in doing justice to the Breton people and themselves. There is no rebellion here, there has been a secession - not of a 'feudal' manner of but a quite modern one. The Sadist Taxes leveed upon the former province of Brittany did very much exist, and if you ask Paris or any administrative capital in France for a copy of the budget that legislated said taxes you may see them for yourself.

I do not seek to rob anyone, and have in fact worked very hard to ensure that no one here starves or lives in great poverty if it can be avoided - thus far to considerable effect! I furthermore have no 'war machine' other than a small defensive army to guard the borders of Brittany, and have bought no one in Paris - have in fact sent no money or goods of any sort there; lest you count these letters which I send freely to anyone and everyone who chooses to read them. You claim I condemn men to starve and suffer, but thus far the only ones calling for people to be ground into the dust and be 'punished' are Republicans of various stripes.

Honestly, if you will not accept reality 'in silence' then perhaps you would accept silence itself and spare the world of your indulgent fantasies of evil Breton Nobles oppressing Parisian peasants with vast trunks of gold diverted from imaginary coffers towards the building small bands of very expensive peasant battalions with the means to make war on the world for the sake of sending it into the Dark Ages.

Really sir, the problem you seem to think I have in separating your fantasy stories from your real opinions is perhaps more a reflection of the fantastical and nonsensical nature of everything you set to ink, and thus not a problem of mine but of yours if even you can not determine which I mean to address and why.

Signed,
Steward Charles Armand Tuffin of the Sovereign Independent Elective Duchy of Brittany, in Personal Union with the Kingdom of France under Luis II/Luis XVI

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012


Due to scheduling conflicts, IPlayVideoGames2 has left the game. We wish him the best of luck and thank him for all of the effort he put into the game. You will be sorely missed. Armand Marc, rincewind, has taken over as leader of the Feuilliants. Try not to go mad with power!

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Excerpt from “The 100 Events that Changed the French Revolution”
By Josiah H. Canterbury, William J. O’Reilly and Emily Vasquez
(c) 1992, Vanderbilt Press
Livingstone, Dominion of New Caledonia

53. The Assassination of Antoine Barnave, March 13, 1792

“They have done more than rob me of my companion, they have stolen away France’s greatest protector. There will not be another like him in our lifetime.
-Queen Marie Antoinette on the death of Antoine Barnave

We have chosen this event both because of the two things it marked: the growing radicalism of the French street and the increasing role of the Feuillant Party. The assassination sent ripples across the French political scene and has been immortalized in countless works on the period.

Antoine Barnave emerged from Dauphiné, the son of a Protestant family. As a result of his family’s political leanings, he was barred from attending school. Instead, he was homeschooled by his mother who instilled him with the values that would later form his political identity. In 1789, Antoine Barnave was chosen to represent his native province in the Estates-General. There, he rose to prominence for his quick wit and revolutionary publications. He wrote the Manifesto of the Jacobins, but separated from the group in favor of a much more moderate organization of his own creation, the Feuilliants.

Under the Kingdom of the French, Barnave became an even more powerful leader. Political maverick he was, Barnave was able to manipulate legislative procedure in his favor. Bills lived or died depending on his ruling. He is credited with preventing mass starvation throughout the French countryside through The Food Relief Act of 1791 and ensuring the passage of Jewish Emancipation. Modern historians applaud him as well for his progressive views on women and slavery. He is considered a beacon of moderation in the storm that was the Revolutionary period, always pursuing the greater rights for the people without undermining the stability of the state.

This turned out to be his downfall. Following the attempted assassination of Robespierre, Paris’s urban poor demanded blood payment. The King, the Pope and the Feulliants were all blamed for their leader’s suffering. There had to be revenge.

As Barnave was walking home, he was ambushed by Georges Fouquier, a street beggar and self-proclaimed Jacobin. Taking a stolen pistol from his jacket pocket, Georges proceeded to unload two bullets Antoine Barnave’s head while screaming, “For the Republic! For Robespierre!” Fouquier was incapacitated and taken into custody. The trial became a media frenzy for Fouquier's fanatical love for Robespierre, which he called "perfect brotherhood". Barnave was rushed to his home, but died of his injuries before a doctor could be called.

The rapid series of deaths and assassinations shocked Paris. Newspapers across France, with the exception of Le Libertin, demanded a return to moderation and an end to hostilities. Foreign Minister Armand Marc, the newly elected leader of the Feuilliants, was able to exploit the outrage and increase morale within his own party. However, the group experienced significant organizational turmoil with members struggling to maintain their roles in an increasingly chaotic environment.

The assassination also had a profound change on the person thought to be most removed from France’s political scene - Marie Antoinette. Although not known at the time, Marie Antoinette and Antoine Barnave had shared close correspondence. Upon hearing of the death of her friend, the Queen left her self-imposed isolation and rode to Notre Dame Cathedral, where she demanded an elaborate funeral for Barnave, overseen by the Archbishop himself. From this point forward, Marie Antoinette ceased being a passive figure in French politics and became an influential figure in her own right. That is a tale for another time, however…

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!



Jacques Hébert, Citizen of France
Editor of Le Pére Duchesne, Equal to All Frenchmen

A Most Exceedingly Open Response to a Continued Correspondence Already Established to be Very Open posted:

Dear citizen:
As you seek an earnest exchange, such I will give.
Whether the taxes that were at one point levied against Brittany did or did not reach the coffers in which you seat, matters little. For instead of participating in the most transparent discussion that this budget caused within the Republican Institutions, you snatched this single act and hoisted it as a flag of rebellion. Rebellion not against the Kingdom of France, but against the most clear and eminent will of its people. Instead of addressing the new governing bodies of France, you chose to encroach into your holdings.

Many embellishments can be given to this telling of events. I care not for embellishments, I care only for the distilled truth. In this case, such truth is this: In a country that is moving, slowly but steadily, from the rule of few to the rule of many, you wish to revert this. You claim to act in defense of the people of Brittany, but your declaration of Independence does no more than change the course of the region, from one headed towards a future where each Breton will have more power than he has now, to one where it just so happens that power will remain in the hands of those who have held privileges for centuries by doing nothing.

My position regarding these events is most exceedingly simple, and will not require further defining: A battle is brewing, not only in Brittany, but throughout France, against both the few who wish to retain their despotic hold on power, and the many who, blinded by ignorance, follow them in such endeavor. For the latter, I wish for their defeat to come through reason and conversion to the cause that unites all right-thinking Frenchmen; for the former, I wish for their defeat to come through the clean, radiant whistle of the falling blade of the guillotine.

Yours truly,
Jacques Hébert,
your Equal.

e: whoops. Declaration of Independence, not Constitution. Dumb!

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.




SexyBlindfold posted:

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Jacques Hébert, Citizen of France
Editor of Le Pére Duchesne, Equal to All Frenchmen



Ha! Good thing I never learned how to read.

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!



Steward Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Luis II

An Incredibly Open Response to a Overpoweringly Open Response to a Continued Correspondence Not Yet Established to be Open Enough posted:

Mr. Hébert,

I am glad that you have dropped the immaturity and are now ready to discuss things plainly. Where shall I begin? The fact that the taxes were called upon matters a great deal, just as whether someone should be tried for murder depends very much on whether or not someone died. These taxes did exist and were openly acclaimed by Robespierre and Sade to be carried out with the purpose of destroying the Breton nation and in full knowledge of this fact. This you may also see in records of the time. Furthermore you are mistaken in thinking this was the sole 'act' on which basis this 'rebellion', really legal secession, was carried out. Rather this was the last act and last straw. The first was the removal of our provincial privileges granted to us as compensation for our unjust annexation in the late early 1500s. The second was the destruction of our province wholesale. The Third the attacks on our language and culture. The Fourth the separating of our clergy from their Pope in Rome by making them subject to control of the French state. And so on and so forth. Had you read our Declaration of Independence you would know of all this, for it is stated plainly within its text. So much for that fiction!

What of the will of the people? The will of the nation of Brittany, which this concerns - and who only this concerns, is behind me and this secession which we have successfully carried out. The will of the radical government of Paris is unimportant as they have proven to be utterly divorced from an understanding of the needs and desires of our nation and its people. They attempted to destroy us out of hatred and we will never submit to their rule again. We instead submit to the rule of our elected Duke Luis II; who incidentally is also your sovereign King Luis XVI.

You speak of our Constitution. In fact, you seem to know quite a lot about it and have written as though you have read it forwards and backwards. The trouble is, we have no Constitution as such! What in heaven's name have you been reading and referring to then? I know not. What the Elective Duchy of Brittany has is the common law and traditional laws and customs of our Duchy collected since the days of Nominoe the Founder. It is not a change in this nations course but a rejection of the change in our course your government forced upon us at gunpoint against our will and against God's will.

The rule of the few over the many would be the Parisian radicals, holding our King hostage, ruling over the entirety of France and her nations. Instead we have the nation of Brittany ruling itself here. This is called self-rule, and it is most just!

You claim a battle is brewing, but if you want one take it elsewhere. Brittany wants no part in your little 'crusades'. The only despotism you should fight against in regards to our Duchy is that of Paris over Brittany! All you do is call for death and oppression and war. I call for peace, understanding, and acceptance.

Sustain peace with our independent Duchy, understand why we did what we did, and accept our decision as free men under God and King!

Signed,
Steward Charles Armand Tuffin of the Sovereign Independent Elective Duchy of Brittany, in Personal Union with the Kingdom of France under Luis II/Luis XVI

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

No reason to make an effort to empathize if doing so comes at the price of oblivion.




"On the Death of Antoine Barnave", by Armand Marc, comte de Montmorin, as published in L'Ami de la France

March 15, 1792

I was much aggrieved to hear of the untimely death of my colleague Antoine Barnave, but still more aggrieved by the circumstances of that grim tiding. Barnave, a fearless defender of the Constitution, was a stalwart friend to France, and to see him cut down in so despicable a manner should be unacceptable to all right-thinking Frenchmen, no matter their political affiliations.

I feel that the best way to honor Barnave's sacrifice is to continue to vigorously defend the stability and rule of law promised by our unique system of Constitutional monarchy. Incidents of political violence, like the assassination of Barnave, or the "Citizen" de Sade's cowardly assault on the Luxembourg and depredations against its residents, or— yes, even the attempted assassination of Monsieur Robespierre— are the last gasps of a dying old order in which political questions were answered with the barrel of a gun or the tip of a sword. Under the Constitution, a new age is dawning— an age in which the rule of LAW has replaced the rule of FORCE, and the destiny of the men and women of France is settled in the halls of a deliberative legislature, rather than blood spilled on cobblestones or fields of battle. It would be disingenuous in the extreme to suggest that Monsieur Robespierre is not my enemy— but he is an enemy I shall defeat with laws and reason in the Assembly, not through a cowardly act of murder. I am, therefore, grateful that he survived the attack on his person to stand across from me in the chambers of the Assembly and debate the future of our nation another day.

I wish, however, that Antoine Barnave had enjoyed a similar degree of good fortune. Unfortunately, he was claimed before his time by the grim spectre of POLITICAL VIOLENCE. It is the sort of thing one expects to hear of in the dying days of the Roman Republic, when the blood of the Dictator Sulla's enemies clogged the cutters of Rome, not in our new, enlightened nation.

All we can do is hope for a more peaceful future, and hope that history shall remember Antoine Barnave's assassination as the last chapter of a more barbaric age.

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!




THE MOST NEGATIVE FEELINGS OF FATHER DUCHESNE

My most wretched sons and daughters from every corner of France:
I reach out to you today in anger. Antoine Barnave has been assassinated, by one of my most beloved children no less, and the time was not right.

What good is it to rid us of one of the traitors to the revolution, he who wanted to crush the City Militia, he who acted with weakness against the Breton menace, he who was the most fervent watchdog of the derelict property of wealthy emigrés? What good is it I say, if it is to go down as but a drop in the water, a faint sound, a single note; instead of making of this part of a colossal storm, a deafening rumble, a magnificent symphony?
Now, let us not be harsh, for your dear Father Duchesne has a good memory to remember that which is owed: For the late Barnave's support for the Food Act, we will hold a red rose in his memory; for his attempt at achieving voting rights for all women, a white rose; for everything else he and his damned party represent, we shall piss on his grave.
And yet, this act is a foolish diversion of what is most urgent to all right-thinking men and women of no property and no privilege: The fight for the right to bread and work, a battle whose field has been picked for us by the most esteemed friend of the paper, Citizen Charles Armand Tuffin. Unity in the Assembly, War on Brittany! For Equality, Against Hunger!

A RICH WHITE MAN
Jul 30, 2010

See them other chickenheads? They don't never leave the coop.


SexyBlindfold posted:

I don't know how to do this! I am dumb.

Click here!

AndItsAllGone
Oct 8, 2003



Joining as Alexis Le Veneur de Tillières, commandant l'Armée du Rhin.

anditsallgone@gmail.com

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012


I'm in as Georges Danton, theninedynine at gmail.



Minister Marc is right to say that a new age is dawning, but it has not triumphed just yet. It is too soon to declare ourselves victorious over the old order- not while certain of my countrymen who are not devoted to France still clamor to take away the Unity and the Liberty of our people in the name of a misguided love for History as viewed through a cracked looking glass. Like so much of aristocratic Europe, the forces led by Citizen Tuffin are fearful of this new dawn of popular rule of law, cringing away from it and seeking to scuttle back into the false pride of regionalism, into the gilded but uncaring embrace of a hereditary monarch. My fellow citizens, I tell you we must pull our France- all of it- into the future, lest we succumb once again to the cold comfort of the past.

Sword of Damocles
Jul 11, 2006



A sooty letter, covered in odd markings, found lodged in Robespierre's coal chute posted:

In the name of Christ, I extend the merriest of meetings to Maximilieu Robinspear, my friend and the sprightliest of all the cenobites of the Upheaval.

First and foremost, I must thank you for organising the fine feast of gruel and cheese at the Jacobin Club two months prior. I felt that my message reached many of your acolytes, and the transfusion of spiritual wisdom and understanding will surely aid them during their traditional rites of passage.

I recently accompanied a very good friend of mine, the great Magus known as Ivan Back Moon, on an investigation of Palais de Luxembourg, where we discovered what can only be described, as shocking as it might be to believe, the leathery remnants of something that greatly resembled the infamous Clay Man of Vltava. While, according to theological accounts, the one on Vltava was rendered into chunks and rubble by the breachment of the Cabal markings, the Word of Life if you will, the one I encountered at the Palais was quite different in nature. It reminded me of the skin of a he-goat, torn apart by brute force rather than the steady hand of an inquisitor or a sorcerer.

Due to my mentorship to you, it is certain that you already know the implications of this incident: someone is attempting to artificially create a goblin scapegoat, but their understanding of Belphegorian magnetism is clearly insufficient. As such, they are calling to the art of Kabbalah when an adept sorcerer would be utilising bellows to fill the sack of skin to the brim.

According to my companions, the man who is likely to be responsible of this vile act of infantile mysticism is a Jacobin hierarch known as Marcus the Sad. While the origins of his title elude me, I can say from experience that even an inept warlock is capable of causing spiritual decay on an incredibly grand scale.

Naturally, we must approach a subject like this with great care. I have already taken the first steps: lundi, mardi, mecredi, jeudi, vendredi, samdi and dimanche will act as my personal Eye of Providence, keeping the Jacobin Club here in Paris under daily surveillance.

Highly suspicious patrons entering or leaving the club may be accosted, questioned or searched, and their reactions to odour of thyme will be observed. Furthermore, I have detected a particularly strong increase in unholy forces in certain parts of the city. I know that you have already received one of the leaflets I left on the front desk of Hotel Mazarin, but it is worth restating that a man of your position should do his best to avoid these locations. The foulest of Rhotomago's servants patrol these places with the undying vigil of the Magi in their survey of the womb of the Godhead. You might even be attacked!

Your old mentor and friend, le Feau des Farfadets,
Alexis-Vincent-Charles Berbiguier de Terre-Neuve du Thym

Friar John
Aug 3, 2007

Saint Francis be my speed! how oft to-night
Have my old feet stumbled at graves!

Georges Cadoudal

From "A Eulogy for Barnave" posted:

Fellows of France, I grieve. I grieve as I know you do as well. A man, a fine man, has been taken from this vale of tears. Although he was not in Christ's Church, he was baptized as a Christian, however misguided. And so let us ask for Christ's mercy for Antoine Barnave, ask for the prayers of the Virgin Mary and St. John to speed his soul through the sanctifying flames of Purgatory, into the Beatific Vision itself. With a prayer to the Five Wounds of Jesus Christ, we men of France do unite our sufferings with those of Christ Crucified. May God have mercy on our souls.

"Preface to "A Lost Debate" posted:

With the tragic murder of my debate partner, the late Barnave, I wish to publish for the satisfaction of all those who, like myself, looked forward to the contest of logic and syllogism between Barnave and myself, this collection of writings -- my meager and short arguments that I would have drawn from and spoken about in greater length in Toulouse. I know that I am not the only intellectual in France to grieve for Barnave, and let this stand as a testament to a man who sought to reason and convince, rather than destroy.

AndItsAllGone
Oct 8, 2003



Address from the Grand Camp in Strasbourg, February 1792

I do not think it would be boastful to say my command is in finer shape than any other in France. To you, my soldiers in the early hours, respendent with bright uniforms and shining musketry--Agamemnon himself couldn't have overseen a greater army. Yet, even though the sight of my men marching fills me with joy, I'm also burdened by a deep unease that I cannot explain away.

It is my sincere hope that I never have to use my army in anything except the defense of France and her people; indeed, my stomach turns at the thought of Frenchman's bayonet spilling the blood of a fellow subject of my King. However as a loyal subject I must put aside these ill thoughts and I likewise urge all you soldiers serving beneath me--I desperately urge and in fact firmly command you to do the same.

It is not a time now to, as men dutifully sworn in arms to France, think of our great nation's future. The future is not the province of the soldier. The soldier's place is in the present, and that is where his thoughts shall remain so long as I have any say in it. Do not let a trying and troublesome year turn your thoughts to that which are truly most deserving: God, King, and country. Vive l'France!

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Danton



Hébert



Tillières (couldn't fine anything with better quality)



Franco

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

No reason to make an effort to empathize if doing so comes at the price of oblivion.


Thanks for doing these images, by the way. They're really classing up the joint.

I won't be around much for the next two days, but I'll still get my turn in and try to pop in to vote on all relevant legislation.

A RICH WHITE MAN
Jul 30, 2010

See them other chickenheads? They don't never leave the coop.


An Address by the Enragés Delegate to the Assembly

With the seizing of the emigre estates, an obvious question arises: what is to be done with this land? The answer is, of course, obvious. Is this not a revolution of the People? Have not the aristocracy trodden over their peasants and tenant farmers for the whole of French history? I am sure that many of my colleagues have read Babeuf's recent pamphlet, distributed amongst the peasantry. We must look to the example of Picardie for the way forward!

The Agricultural Innovation Act

Seized emigre estates are to be organized into agricultural collectives, owned cooperatively by the men who till the land.

Fall Sick and Die
Nov 22, 2003




Citizen Sade

A report of a speech given by the Marquis de Sade upon the ruins of a noble estate in the Normandy region

To the people of France! To my loyal Cambions! Are not laws dangerous which inhibit the passions? Compare the centuries of anarchy with those of the strongest legalism in any country you like and you will see that it is only when the laws are silent that the greatest actions appear. Now, the laws of France are in chaos as faction fights faction, creed fights creed, monarchist in opposition to republican, moderate in opposition to radical. Truly this is a time for great deeds! I say to you that all men are one, for each seeks to impose his viewpoint of the world upon all others.

Every man feels the lust for domination swell deep within his bosom. Lust's passion will be served; it demands, it militates, it tyrannizes! Let me by your Tyrant, people of France! Let me strip your wives naked before you, let me sodomize your firstborn son before your very eyes while you are held, helpless, by my Janissaries. All, all is theft, all is unceasing and rigorous competition in nature; the desire to make off with the substance of others is the foremost - the most legitimate - passion nature has bred into us and, without doubt, the most agreeable one. Together my Cambions, we shall show the people of France how easily all of their noble ideals can be torn from them, how quickly they shall degenerate into base creatures who shy from the terrible light emanating from the black sun DE SADE! My Cambions, we march WEST to bring red war to the Bretons!

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.




Hey y'all. Been busy busy buy trying to fix all of your shit, but things are looking up. First, promotions! Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, Comte de Rochambeau is hereby awarded the title of Marechal. Second, l'Armee du Nord is hereby ordered to move to the Breton border in order to protect the local townsfolk from the depredations of the outlaw de Sade.

Friar John
Aug 3, 2007

Saint Francis be my speed! how oft to-night
Have my old feet stumbled at graves!

Georges Cadoudal

From "Contra Dantonem" posted:

"Progress," "A New Age," "A New Dawn," "Into the Future" -- these are all from Monsieur Danton's speech to the assembly. But the Monsieur seems to think that if he speaks the right words, mumbles the correct phrases that his party has seized upon, then, like Aladdin, magic will come upon him, and all men shall give their consent to his will. But there is no progress without an end,
I ask him, and all of France asks him, what Liberty, what Unity, when it is you who seek to slay those who would disagree! Will the dead and maimed live free after your war? Will all of France live united to your will, and be destroyed should it consider you mistaken? Is that liberty, to think and live in accordance to Danton? What future is it to look forward to, if all men are doppelgaengers of Danton? Is this not a greater tyranny than anything from the Orient or Ancient histories? The Roman tyrant Caesar Tiberius desired obedience, but he did not order all men to become Tiberius!
He thinks that not only I, but all my comrades, have a cracked view of History, that we are blind to faults. I deny him that! I see sin and vice keenly in the pride of lords and princes, but even more keenly in myself! Danton seems to think that should the laws be set correctly, all men will become virtuous. He has it backwards! Do you not see around you, in every nation of earth there are differing laws, but in all of them men prey upon the weak, protect their sin, no matter the laws! Men must first be converted to Christ, to the supernatural gifts of faith, hope, and charity, and then laws shall not only be set correctly, but shall be lived correctly. Look first to your own conduct, fellows of France, be converted to Christ as the saints, give ceaselessly to charity as St. Vincent de Paul, and then with the love of Christ animating us, we may manfully struggle with the laws of our kingdom and peoples.
Vive le Roi!

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.




After a bunch of tense negotiations, I am pleased to announce that the King, resplendent and august in his wisdom, has managed to bring to an end the conflict in Haiti, and save his subjects from further violence. Toussaint Louverture and his followers, and Colonel Napoleon Bonaparte have both endorsed this arrangement, and we are happy to announce that Haiti is now the newest province of France and that the fighting is over. The sugar will flow uninterrupted, so dig it.

Haiti shall be incorporated as a province of France, and granted semi-autonomy in domestic affairs, but in return they shall swear an oath of mutual defense and unswervingly follow our foreign policy. In order to assist this new government, Colonel Bonaparte will remain with his soldiers, and cooperate with Louverture in keeping law and order during this transitional stage, until both he and Louverture feel progress has been satisfactory. Any white slaveowners who feel uncomfortable with this arrangement will be offered plots of land in France that they can return to. Haiti, of course, will continue to sell sugar exclusively to France.

Toussaint Louverture has expressed his deepest sorrow and regret over the tragic excesses of the revolt, and together he and Colonel Bonaparte will bring the renegades responsible for the atrocities at St. Marc and Le Cap to justice. In the meantime, though, let the fuckin church bells ring across the land, for Liberty prevails, and no more Frenchmen have to die of malaria fighting for an unjust cause. Consent and cooperation, these are what the King believes in!

As a clarification, the King has ordered that the Colonial Administration be dissolved in favor of the new government. If anyone associated with this corrupt and wasteful regime defies the order, Colonel Bonaparte is authorized to suppress them in the name of the King and the new government. After hostilities have ceased, the Colonel and his troops will form the basis of the new province's defense forces, under the new government, and the other informal militias currently in existence will disarm and disband.

As a further clarification, Colonel Napoleon will temporarily answer to Touissant, although of course this arrangement will be under careful scrutiny and we will not hesitate to review or alter it if one of the involved parties reneges on the terms of this agreement. This, of course, is highly unlikely and we have full faith in our new countrymen to exercise caution and prudence in their direction of the Colonel and his forces, and place the appropriate amount of weight in his advice.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.


In case it was not apparent, the forces of Monarchist Europe lurk on our doorstep, gaining power for an attack. Our armies are needed on our borders, not on the other side of the country. Even if the Devil De Sade invades Brittany, it just means two rebels for Lafayette to crush.

To clarify the position of the Assembly, I will propose the Defend the Borders Act: our army is directed to fortify the borders of France and prepare to defend France.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009




Major von Bachmann, Swiss Guard

This is glorious news! The love for the crown has been restored and extended, the duty of all Haitians to obey their rightful King can now be fulfilled! The cowards and devil-worshippers who stood in the way of justice will scuttle back to their clubs in shame and fear knowing that the light of God shines upon France and all her people, wherever they may reside and whatever tongue they speak! Truly, unity under the divine person of our liege is the only unity that matters.

Friar John
Aug 3, 2007

Saint Francis be my speed! how oft to-night
Have my old feet stumbled at graves!

Georges Cadoudal

For the Haitians posted:

Rejoice! Rejoice, people of France, for justice has been served! The inhuman slavery exacted upon the sons of Africa, so long detested by the Holy Church, has been destroyed, and the people of Haiti raised up by the King to take their place with their fellow subjects! The King will see justice done, that those who slaughtered without mercy shall be brought to heel. Let all men thank the King for his foresight and wisdom, and pray that conflict may no more ravage the island, or France!

A RICH WHITE MAN
Jul 30, 2010

See them other chickenheads? They don't never leave the coop.


An Address by the Enragés Delegate to the Assembly

Citizens, I will be brief: the Revolutionary Guard requires funding. The sans-culottes of Paris cry out to serve their revolution, and, indeed, many have answered the call; lack of funding, however, limit operations severely. You have empowered the Revolutionary Guard to safeguard our liberty, and now, if there is any hope of our revolution's survival, citizens, you must arm it. The Bretons are in open revolt, with the support of both the military and the monarchists, and across our border in Austria the emigres flock to the banners of the King's bastard brother, with the ink barely dry on the Declaration of Pillnitz. If we are to be anything more than a footnote of history, citizens, we must empower the defenders of our revolution!

Reinforce the City Guard Act
This act will require funding for the Revolutionary Guard, to the tune of four credits. Two credits are to be diverted from Culture for the purposes of this act, with a modest tax hike of 5% on the nobility.

Stalin-Chan
Feb 11, 2009

Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. Come on.

sniper4625 posted:

In case it was not apparent, the forces of Monarchist Europe lurk on our doorstep, gaining power for an attack. Our armies are needed on our borders, not on the other side of the country. Even if the Devil De Sade invades Brittany, it just means two rebels for Lafayette to crush.

Defend the Borders Act: our army is directed to fortify the borders of France and prepare to defend France.



Defend the Borders Act: NO

Legislating my army in this way will simply halt progress, Robespierre believes that the police force of Paris should be responsible for rebels and attacks in Britanny? The Legislature should trust me and my superiors judgements and not try to legislate over our orders.

My personal brigade will be arriving at the Breton border. They may participate in drills with my brigade and I will allow them to take part in the Breton crisis, but under no circumstances will my brigade leave them and no shots will be fired until the legislation passes.

On another note; I ask Lafayette, when we told you to arrest De Sade as the police should do you told me "they went north." well the Bretons are far west my friend so why do you not apply the same logic here.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.


An army with no accountability to the people is a dangerous thing. As the representatives of the people, it is essential that the Assembly have a role in the process, to avoid the misuse of Force against the best interests of France.

Also, my act refers to the National Guard of France, not Paris. Shall I have some glasses sent to your HQ near the national border?

AndItsAllGone
Oct 8, 2003



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Alexis Le Veneur de Tillières, commandant l'Armée du Rhin

Though I hesitate to voice what may be misconstrued as a political opinion--which it most assuredly is not--I would be remiss not to share my feelings that the unguarded banks of the Rhine would be a treasure to our enemies far more valuable than any political squabbling. I cautiously urge support of the proposed Defend the Borders Act.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Saint Just



Citizens! We have news that the King yet again defies the constitution! How does he proclaim through his War Minister that St. Dominique is now a province of France? Has the National Assembly declared it so? Far from it! When a motion was made to make it one, the proposal was laughed out of the Assembly! What right, then, does the King have to say otherwise? He has no right! He has acted illegally, and his illegal actions have no force!

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Marquis de Lafayette, Commander of the National Guard

The Tyrannies of Europe assemble to march on us, and the King orders the Army leave the heart of France open to invasion from our most vulnerable borders? This is madness. The Breton rebels number 2500, more than enough to keep in check. They will not cross the border as long as the National Guard is there to defend it. We must present a strong front to the Tyrants to our East. To not do so invites them to seize Paris and end our Liberty... unless that is the true wish of the King?

I call on all good members of the Assembly to approve the Defend the Borders Act to defend France from its enemies.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




Gentlemen, a piece of administrative work.

The Closing the Loophole Act. The estate of the late General Luckner is hereby commanded and directed to deliver the wealth, possessions and holdings delivered to General Luckner by the emigre population to the Treasury of France.

A common-sense act, my fellow citoyens. Let not the forces of reaction abuse our laws so!

Gone Fashing
Aug 4, 2004

dulce et decorum est




Good members and fellow citizens of the Assembly, I wish to let it be known to you that I did not in any way authorize the underhanded negotiations recently carried out by the treacherous Admiral of our Navy in the name of the King. It is my belief that Touissant Louverture, along with his brother Haitians, are traitors of the same caliber as those odious Bretons. To those who are considering lending their support to the Defend the Borders Act, I would implore you to reconsider if only to allow our nation's great military to concentrate their force on cleansing both Brittany and Haiti of their respective traitorous menace for good.

Though we may not all see eye to eye on political matters, I would hope that you do not hesitate to call on myself and the ships of His Majesty when you may be in need.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.


Brillo_Pad posted:

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Good members and fellow citizens of the Assembly, I wish to let it be known to you that I did not in any way authorize the underhanded negotiations recently carried out by the treacherous Admiral of our Navy in the name of the King. It is my belief that Touissant Louverture, along with his brother Haitians, are traitors of the same caliber as those odious Bretons. To those who are considering lending their support to the Defend the Borders Act, I would implore you to reconsider if only to allow our nation's great military to concentrate their force on cleansing both Brittany and Haiti of their respective traitorous menace for good.

Though we may not all see eye to eye on political matters, I would hope that you do not hesitate to call on myself and the ships of His Majesty when you may be in need.



Monsieur Minister, I fully understand your concerns. However, isn't the National Guard, 43,000 strong, more than enough to crush the Breton Rebellion? The status of Haiti is something else - the outrageous and illegal acts of the King there make it a different case, one to be dealt with in the near future. However, hundreds of thousands of soldiers are being raised across Europe, poised to sweep into la belle France and destroy all we have built. Our armies must protect the border!

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

No reason to make an effort to empathize if doing so comes at the price of oblivion.




I fear Robespierre has been out of touch with the international news. I suppose we shouldn't judge him too harshly, as he's lately had to undergo a long convalescence— best wishes to him and his recovery, of course— but were he to crack open a newspaper or read the latest dispatches from abroad, he might note that relations with our neighbors— in particular, with the Emperor in Vienna— have substantially improved over these past months, thanks to the tireless efforts of France's diplomats. The Defend the Borders Act, which broadly mandates a defense of the "borders" against the "enemies of France" would be a flagrantly provocative measure— and one which would accomplish nothing concrete, as the defense of the kingdom is self-evidently already one of the Army's duties. I therefore oppose this act— it would set back our diplomatic efforts by years for no particular material gain.

Similarly, the status of the Duchy of Brittany requires an equally deft hand. The situation is being resolved through diplomacy and political negotiations, and the Breton Rebellion Act would accomplish nothing save upend any settlement and effect a needless effusion of blood.

The Jacobins would have us turn France into the abattoir of Europe. Let us show them we live in a more rational age.

As for the other legislation currently before the Assembly, I also oppose the Reinforce the City Guard Act. Despite my opposition to the specific turns of the Defend the Boarders Act, I of course recognize the critical role the military plays in the defense of the Realm— and therefore cannot accept depriving it of funds and war matériel to empower a band of Jacobin thugs.

I would also like to propose a piece of legislation. The Province of Haiti Act will ratify the settlement of the matter of Haiti negotiated between Toussaint Louverture, Colonel Napoleon Bonaparte, and His Majesty. As specified by that arrangement, Haiti will be incorporated as a province of France, semi-autonomous in local affairs, but bound by oath to follow France in matters of defense and foreign policy. White planters unhappy with this arrangement will be compensating with land back in the French metropole. Colonel Napoleon will remain in Haiti to enforce this settlement and bring those responsible for the atrocities of St. Marc and Le Cap to justice. The full terms of the settlement, as laid out by Charles Hector, comte d'Estaing, can be read here, of course.

I am very pleased with the course these negotiations took— they have the potential to staunch the bleeding of a festering sore in France's overseas holdings through diplomacy, rather than a grinding war of attrition. I still believe it is proper, however, for the Assembly to ratify the treaty before it is put into force.

Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012





Louis XVI, By the Grace of God, King of France and Navarre.

Spoken from the balcony in Tuileries posted:

In this dark hour, we bring you great news, people of France! Know that at least one conflict has been successfully brought to an end. Thanks to the comte d'Estaing's successful negotiations, if the motion passes through the Legislative Assembly, the St-Domingue rebellion will be no more. The former slaves will be embraced as French citizens, governing themselves semi-autonomously. They shall follow our foreign policy and pledge themselves to our common defense. To ensure their compliance, Napoléon Bonaparte, the commander of l’Armée Expéditionnaire will temporarily station in St. Marc and help to set up their new government.

This is an important step, which ends the immoral, God-forsaken practice of slavery in France. Never more will one man hold another in chains! Jacobins talk about freedom, but they were not willing to hear the plight of the people of Haiti, just as their ears remain deaf on Breton cries.

They also don't care about you, Frenchmen. Parisian National Guard, under the command of marquis de Lafayette, was not willing to catch the vile follower of Satan, marquis de Sade. They would rather overstep their authority and station under the borders of Brittany. Robespierre, once called "the Incorruptible", is perfectly willing to let his friend de Sade and the Cambions into into the duchy and continue his vile deeds.

This is what this fiend said over ruins of an estate in Normandy: "Let me by your Tyrant, people of France! Let me strip your wives naked before you, let me sodomize your firstborn son before your very eyes while you are held, helpless, by my Janissaries." If you don't want this to happen, we beg you to talk some sense into the members of the Assembly. It is your right to demand the conflict in Haiti over. It is your right to demand them to stop fan the flames further and acknowledge the end of hostilities in Btittany. It is your inalienable right to demand them to stop sheltering de Sade and give him the justice he deserves.

Messieurs, we oppose the Defend the Borders Act. We will not veto it, but know that we don't want to have anything to do with the act that could provoke Austria into a war with us. We will, however, veto the Breton Rebellion Act, as it would hurt our subjects, both in France in Brittany.

We would also want to present Breton Semi-Independence Recognition Act. This act would recognize the declaration of independence presented by Charles Armand Tuffin as valid.

We would also want to congratulate admiral comte d'Estaing his great work. His temporary tenure as the Minister of War is about to end. We wish he could continue his great work, but he is also a subordinate of the Minister of Navy, which could cause further problems.

We wish to welcome the new Minister of War, Major Karl Josef von Bachmann.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now


Rincewind posted:

The full terms of the settlement can be read here, of course.

Jean Raussut, a member of the Legislative Assembly, replied:

These aren't the full terms, however; though not made very clear, M. Louveture would actually be appointed as leader of the colony, with Napoleon acting as his second-in-command, until they both agree the revolution is over and the colony has transitioned fully into incorporation of Metropolitan France. Once this has happened, the soldiers of Free St-Domingue will disarm and either return to their homes and farms or reenlist as members of the French Army.

I think it's a fine deal. The Haitians get to abolish slavery, the fighting stops, and we still get sugar for our tea.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




An Address to the Assembly posted:


Fellow citoyens, by now you have heard of the abominable act put before us by the King. The Breton Semi-Independence Recognition Act he calls it - I say it is the Dissolution of France Act! If we allow these rebels to have their so-called independence, every region and ethnicity in France will follow, and what right will we have to stop them? To pass this act would be to betray France herself, and I cannot imagine what the King is thinking to propose it. Shame! Utter shame!

An Address to the Citoyens de Paris posted:

...now the Breton seeks to convince you that their rebellion is for your sake, that their revival of feudal customs represents an advance for freedom and liberty. People of France, I have a few questions:

Will you believe their lies?
Will you quietly let the King give away French soil?
Will you quietly let the Breton rebel against France itself?
Will you go quietly into la nuit bon?

Not I, not so long as I draw breath.

Are you with me? Are you with France!?

*The crowd errupts in cries of "Unité! Unité! Vive la France Unité!

Private Journal posted:

...now the King makes his lapdog Minister of War! Not even a Frenchman! Truly shameful. As for this session, I am encouraged by the support for my acts - France is not yet bereft of champions.

Tao Jones
Jun 15, 2007

That's a very courageous post, Minister!




The United States of America holds that the so-called "Breton Rebellion" is (if it is a rebellion at all) a matter which has yet to be decided by law, while it is unambiguous that the Haitian slave revolt is a great crime which no moral nation could let go unpunished. Toussaint Loverture himself is a great criminal, and terms such have been announced, with Napoleon 'answering' to the whims of a rebellious Negro, should be seen by any man with sense to not be a peace treaty or a return to the 'status quo ante', but instead as a military surrender.

Should the Assembly endorse and ratify these articles of surrender to the mob of slaves, the United States of America may have to re-evaluate our partnership with France.

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