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sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




Given Danton's unfortunate absence in this time of crisis, I have no choice but to replace him with Citoyen Saint-Juste. An intellectual man, reasonable in demeanor yet fiery in principle. I am confident he will do the job well.

Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012





Louis XVI, by the Grace of God, King of France and Navarre, Duke of Brittany

An Open Response to the Open Response Written By Louis Philippe d'Orleans posted:


Recently, my traitorous cousin engaged in a discussion with honorable Charles Armand Tuffin. I would not concern myself with discussing anything with a betrayer, but the falsehoods he spews should not remain unanswered. Let us analyze his them thoroughly: it would seem he bases his accusations on somewhat shaky logic.

The traitor says: "First, the King had more powers than simply the veto. He can deliver speeches advocating his cause. He can go and create pamphlets to let people know his views. He can feed the poor and the hungry, as he has done in a vain attempt to boost his popularity. He has all the powers that a regular citizen has, and he has used them to push for his agenda. Nobody screamed at the King for proposing a bill to incorporate the Independent Duchy. It was his right, his prerogative, his power to do so. Had he limited himself to advocacy for his political position concerning Brittany, there would have been no revolution. He instead went beyond that, and committed treason."

First we can see the concerned and benevolent "president" criticizing me for feeding the poor. Apparently he sees it as as an attempt to gain popularity and nothing more. While not connected to the case of Brittany, it says a lot about his moral stance and compassion towards the very people he claims to represent.

It is also not obvious, why would a bill to incorporate an independent duchy would not be a treason, yet using the veto prerogative is considered something vile. Both were the tools the previous constitution gave to the King. It all becomes obvious later, though.

As the betrayer of his own blood claims: "(...)the Constitution has declared that France is inviolable and that it cannot give up its territory. The very text of the constitution is important, just as important as the text that gave the King veto-power. The King has been granted the power of veto, but he must also adhere to all other laws. A power is not absolute; it is contingent and limited based on other regulations." So, despite his own words, every action that could aid the independence of Brittany, would be considered treasonous.

Let us, however, go further. "Finally, just because something is legal does not mean that it is right, proper, or just. One only have to look to what the French government, with the tacit approval of your King, did when it passed those unjust taxes on the people of Brittany. If someone adheres to the law to do something immoral and wrong, does that make the action right? Of course not! Similarly, the King has committed treason against the French state. Just because that treason was legal does not make it somehow not treasonous. And the act was treasonous, as it betrayed the French state by causing it to lose its territory to the Duchy of Brittany."

Let this fragment be a warning to everyone, who thinks that obeying the republican law makes him safe. As the traitor stated, it does not matter to him at all when considering, what is treason. He can overrule it whenever he thinks it is not "right, proper and just". It is not different at all from the royal prerogative from before the revolution - but do republicans not claim the entire point of the constitution was to guarantee inalienable rights to everyone?

The entire premise, however, is flawed because it is supported by a lie. Louis Philippe and his masters assert my veto somehow had recognized Breton independence. Of course, no kind of veto could do that. "Veto" means "I forbid" in Latin and can only be used to stop a legislative action from taking place. Therefore it could not do anything that Robespierre and Lafayette accuse me of.

This particular veto was meant to stop the act which would legalize an intervention in Brittany. This problem could have been solved with diplomacy. I am sure that marquis de la Rouerie, if approached reasonably, would have settled with a less daring solution. Instead, a pack of madmen screamed about bloodbath, accusing everyone, who would try to negotiate, of high treason. Like petulant children, they threw a fit in the very moment someone would not give them exactly what they wanted.

It is very ironic that the very people, who accuse their King of being a tyrant, would choose the bloodiest solution possible when dealing with their enemies. It is strange that they would demand a constitution - a document which would restrain the ruler - then claim it is not really important, because their sense what is right always trumps the law. What is most baffling, though, is how those people - who claim to be guided by reason and logic - can be so bad philosophers that even the obsolete King, the keeper of old thoughts and values, can easily point out basic flaws in their argumentation?

Stalingrad
Feb 5, 2011



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People of Picardie

I have realised that due to the Figurehead position of the President, that I am best suited not as President, but as head of the Enragés party, until the Presidential Election, Babeuf will be President Honorarily until the next Presidential election in 6 months.

I hope the people of Picardie will make the right decision and elect the Enragés as the ruling party.

Friar John
Aug 3, 2007

Saint Francis be my speed! how oft to-night
Have my old feet stumbled at graves!

Georges Cadoudal

From "Paris no more!" posted:

...Corruptio optimi pessima, is what the philosophers of old said -- "the corruption of the best is the worst." Peoples of France, have we not seen this maxim play out before our very eyes? Have we not seen Paris, the Queen of Cities, descend into the mire of ruination and revolution? Paris, so long the standard that so many of the Kingdom followed, is plunging itself into chaos and madness. Will you follow her over the edge?

No! But now you see the choice ahead of you, peoples of France! Either you look to your homes yourself, cherish those vineyards and orchards your grandfathers tended, and defend the ancient laws and customs that protect men from boundless ambition and pride, or follow Paris, in all her blood-stained fashion and whims made law, and watch the world fall apart around you. France, I tell you this one point -- Look to Paris no more! She speaks with no voice but the howl of the bloodthirsty, she judges with no thought but the desire for death, she lives with no hope but that someone may save her from herself. Will you follow the self-destructives who desire the suicide of all the Kingdom? Or will you band yourselves together in mutual defense, and govern yourselves rightly?

I know that many men of virtue and prudence still live among the provinces. The men who once led debates in the great Parlements of the provinces, the holy clergy, magistrates, and all other people in the provinces. You know how to govern your affairs to the help and attainment of the common good not only of your province but also the entire Kingdom. Paris is no more to be listened to, but you must fill that gap! This is your duty, your responsibility. When you come before the Judge of all the nations, He will ask you if you did what you could for the help of the helpless. What will you say in return? I pray you all, stand up for France, stand up for those who cannot stand, stand up for yourselves! Look to Paris no more!
Vive le Roi Louis XVI! Vive fidèle France!

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.


An anonymous pamphlet distributed to Monarchist sympathizers across France posted:

People of France! Marie Therese stands now a prisoner of the Bretons, held captive, forced to learn their foul tongue, forced to marry a Breton commoner, forced to give up her French identity at gunpoint! Taken advantage of in untold ways by the man who declares himself her Steward, he hopes to put her on the "throne of Brittany" as a puppet Duchess! Reject the Breton! Save Marie-Therese! Vivé la France!

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

English soldiers now stand on French land. If there was any doubt in our minds that the Breton rabble are fully and totally against France, let this invitation of the United Kingdom to invade our nation kill those thoughts. In fact, it is now clear this rebellion - and Louis Capet's aid to it - was nothing more than a plot by the English to destroy France and restore the ancien regime!

The Republic is the first government to represent all the people, and we cannot allow it to perish through the treacherous actions of a few Breton conspirators and their English puppetmasters. Order will be restored to Brittany, our men already sit within their supposed borders and are preparing to strike! Unité!

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!


a bad enough dude posted:

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Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

English soldiers now stand on French land. If there was any doubt in our minds that the Breton rabble are fully and totally against France, let this invitation of the United Kingdom to invade our nation kill those thoughts. In fact, it is now clear this rebellion - and Louis Capet's aid to it - was nothing more than a plot by the English to destroy France and restore the ancien regime!

The Republic is the first government to represent all the people, and we cannot allow it to perish. Order will be restored to Brittany, our men already sit within their supposed borders and are preparing to strike! Unité!


'Steward of the King' Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Loeiz II

Open Letter to Lafayette and the French Republic posted:


Dear Murdering Tyrants,

Pretty sure our declaration of mutual war after you invaded us yet again, was the first hint that Brittany was fully and totally against your Republic - as well as why. You are warmongers and the world now knows it. Not a single state on God's Earth shall stand by and allow you to bully us any longer.

Signed,
'Steward of the King' Charles Armand Tuffin of the Independent Elective Duchy of Brittany under Loeiz II

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




A speech to the people of France posted:

How could I forget! The English! The English have come back once more, over 300 years since we last chased them from our fair country. Poised once more to strike at our heart, to see France a subsidiary of their "United Kingdom". Resist the English! Resist their comrade the German! Resist their pet, the Breton! Resist! Fight! Conquer! Vivé la France!

Also, warmongers? I ask any other nation what they would do to rebels against a legitimate government - if the answer is not "swift and decisive action", then that government is not fit to protect its people.

Viscardus
Jun 1, 2011

Thus equipped by fortune, physique, and character, he was naturally indomitable, and subordinate to no one in the world.




Général André Masséna, Commandant de l'Armée du Nord

In a speech to his men a few days after the Battle of Lille:

Brave soldiers of France! Many of you are wounded, I know. All of you are tired. And we have all lost dear comrades. But know that it has not been in vain! Know that we have struck the first blow in the defence of our nascent republic!

Already we have secured our place in the pages of history! A hundred years from now, when our descendants speak of the defence of the ideals of the revolution, our names will be the first to their lips! They will look to us with admiration and with awe! Those who died will be remembered as the foremost martyrs of the republic, whose sacrifices secured liberty and justice for all!

But we all know that the war is not yet won. Even now the traitors lick their wounds as they hide beneath the skirts of their Austrian masters. There will be more fighting. Many of us will die. But we must not think of this as a burden. It is an opportunity: an opportunity for all of us to show Europe our strength. The strength of liberty and justice! The strength of common men fighting back against those who would oppress them! The strength of the revolution! The strength of France!

Vive la France! Vive la République!

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Saint-Just



Citizens of France, and people of the world. I greet you for the first time as foreign minister, and wish to make France's position clear before the world. It is not France's desire to war with any other nation or people. We are a peaceful Republic, a free nation, whose people are enjoying a liberty that has been denied them for centuries, and we desire only to maintain that peace. However, we find ourselves attacked by nations that we have no quarrel with. These were nations, many of them, who, when the old King Louis was on the throne, were among his fiercest enemies. Yet now, they are willing to spill blood to put him back on that throne. Refrain from this. Let us have peace and trade that will benefit all our nations, not war and destruction that will ruin them.

People of the world, know that France means well to all who wish her well. We start no quarrels. But we will not stand by and watch our nation threatened with ruin, our women violated, and our people enslaved. Though we love peace, if we must fight, we will, and we shall have the victory.

I would also like to congratulate President Hamilton on his recent victory in the American presidential elections. As a fellow Republic, we congratulate the United States, and wish it continued success.

A RICH WHITE MAN
Jul 30, 2010

See them other chickenheads? They don't never leave the coop.


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Général Joseph Marie Servan de Gerbey, Commander of l’Armée des Pyrénées

Our great nation stands at a crossroads; we are currently at war with most of Europe, and face internal division and sedition. Should we succeed, should we triumph over our enemies, numerous though they are, our names shall ring forever throughout history, and we will be known as the men who defended liberty, and built the foundations of a republic that will last for a thousand years. Failure is not an option. And so I propose the following act, to provide critical wartime materials to our brave soldiers in the field:

The Wartime Acquisition Act
This act will create an Acquisition Committee, to be appointed by the Minister of War. This Committee will be tasked with the acquisition of critical wartime materials: copper, lead, saltpetre, sulphur, food, and clothing, to name a few. With the massive expansion of our military, we must have a massive increase in supplies: as such, this committee will be given the authority to do anything necessary to acquire necessary supplies for our war effort.

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

I support the Wartime Acquisition Act and propose that Général Gerbey be made head of the Acquisition Committee.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




An excellent idea! However, surely it would be best to have the Committee be based out of Paris - from my military laymen's perspective, it seems it would be best to allow Général Gerbey to focus solely on his army and theater of operations. However, I am always willing to listen to those who know more - if Général Gerbey is the man for the job, then he is the man for the job.

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!


Epicurius posted:

Saint-Just

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Citizens of France, and people of the world. I greet you for the first time as foreign minister, and wish to make France's position clear before the world. It is not France's desire to war with any other nation or people. We are a peaceful Republic, a free nation, whose people are enjoying a liberty that has been denied them for centuries, and we desire only to maintain that peace. However, we find ourselves attacked by nations that we have no quarrel with. These were nations, many of them, who, when the old King Louis was on the throne, were among his fiercest enemies. Yet now, they are willing to spill blood to put him back on that throne. Refrain from this. Let us have peace and trade that will benefit all our nations, not war and destruction that will ruin them.

People of the world, know that France means well to all who wish her well. We start no quarrels. But we will not stand by and watch our nation threatened with ruin, our women violated, and our people enslaved. Though we love peace, if we must fight, we will, and we shall have the victory.

I would also like to congratulate President Hamilton on his recent victory in the American presidential elections. As a fellow Republic, we congratulate the United States, and wish it continued success.



'Steward of the King' Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Loeiz II

Official Letter to France, CCed to other countries in the war - including the US and Russia who might join in the future posted:


Minister Saint-Just,

If you truly mean what you say, if it is true that "it is not France's desire to war with any other nation or people", that you consider yourselves "attacked by nations that we have no quarrel with", and that you wish to "have peace and trade that will benefit all our nations, not war and destruction that will ruin them", then you are in synchronization with our own aspirations and worries. If this is what you actually mean, then perhaps you should end this disgraceful war by agreeing to sit down and negotiate for the peaceful secession of Brittany.

This will be our very last and final offer to do things peacefully - and it is offered against my better judgment and mild protestations of several of my 'Ministers'.

If you reject it now you will show yourself to be a liar of the first degree yet again, and the world will know that your words ring hollow and false. The world would know that it can truly have no peace with you for you do not understand the meaning of the word.

If you accept... well, then sit down and take a good look at which of our mild (but stronger than before) demands you would be wiling to grant, along with recognition of our independence, in return for peace and trade with us.

Signed,
'Steward of the King' Charles Armand Tuffin of the Independent Elective Duchy of Brittany under Loeiz II

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Pamphlet found in a gutter in Rennes, Brittany

pamphlet posted:

"Liberty of death! That is our answer!" - Charles Armand Tuffin

This is the man you follow? You will die for this insane man for a false country! People of Brittany, do not do this! Throw out this madman and his rotund lover Cadoudal, who would both have you die for their own glory!

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!



'Steward of the King' Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie
Steward of the Throne of the Elective Duchy of Breizh/Brittany for Duke Loeiz II

Perhaps it was in the gutter because it is a bad French translation of the Breton saying "Give us liberty or give us Death!" and thus a really shitty pamphlet? Probably planted there by Republicans given the lack of effort put into it, similar to the lack of effort they put into their constitutions before they rip them up in bloody revolutions.

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill


President of the First French Republic Louis Philippe Joseph d'Orléans, “Citoye Egalité”

A speech from the President distributed as a pamphlet throughout Republican held territories:

quote:

My countrymen, the time has finally come. The true enemies of France have shown themselves, and shown their alliances and intentions. The Bretons have sold their souls to our hated enemies the British all in the name of "Independence". Their intentions have never been any clearer, they have sought to not only dismantle our Republic, but install the traitorous King Louis Capet. They want you to bend your knee to their King once more! But my fellow Frenchmen, he is not your king! You let your voice be heard and expelled him and his wretched family from Paris. So long as the Republic stands you shall not bend your knee to the Capets! YOU SHALL NOT BEND YOUR KNEE TO ANY MAN! You shall remain free to exercise the Liberty you have fought so hard for! The Capets and Bretons are so desperate, they cast their lot in with our most hated enemy! Do you think that if they came to power, they would truly rule France? NO! They will be the puppets of the foreign powers they have conspired with! Do you want to be ruled by Prussian and British masters and their Capet puppets? Or do you wish to vote for a government, to have a voice, to have freedom?!!

The circumstances facing our Republic are dire. Our foreign enemies have amassed and are attacking France in the name of Louis Capet, in the name of Monarchy, and in the name of oppression! Even in these dark times, there is still a light. There is still a lone fire burning in the darkness. This fire is Liberty! This fire is the spirit of the French nation! To keep this fire burning, we must stand together! We are no longer Jacobins, Enrages, or Orleanists! We are Frenchmen! We must cast aside our differences and work together to repel the foreign forces who so desperately wish to destroy our Republic and put France under the yoke of oppression! Every able bodied man and woman must do their part for our war effort! There is no turning back now, there is only Liberty or Death at the hands of the Capets and their foreign masters! I ask you to stand with me, to stand with the Republic and fight! Fight with every ounce of strength you have! With your help we shall succeed! The Republic will stand strong with you as its pillars!

Vive la France! Vive la République!

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill


President of the First French Republic Louis Philippe Joseph d'Orléans, “Citoye Egalité”

I fully support the Wartime Acquisition Act. I would also like to add an amendment that this cover taxes as well, and give full authority for the National Guard to assist in the collection of taxes and increase the penalties for tax evasion.

I would also like to propose the Wartime Labor Act, which makes women eligible to work on the acquisition of resources and the manufacture of arms and armaments essential to our effort. We need every able body supporting the effort.

I also propose the Emigre Land Re-Allocation Tax Break where peasant farmers who have received land seized from the Emigres will only pay a 5% tax rate on the land instead of the normal higher rate. This also includes a temporary requirement that the farmers give 10% of their crop to the military to feed our fighting men.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester


Marquis de Condorcet, writing from a small brasserie near Rue de Rivoli

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quote:

My dear General,

I am quite honored that you would find the time to take such a diversion away from matters of imminent War and Political Strife, to recognize the importance of matters of Science. While my learned brothers and I do not speak with a single voice to represent the Academy, it would be safe for one to say that, in General, were you to poll those learned men of France that the Republican spirit would be regarded well among them. Even those entitled Men among us surely recognize that, as men of Science, we must move forward along with Politics, for Politics is as much an advancement of science as is Chemistry or Physics. For it is Politics that sets us apart from the savage beast, is it not?

In review of your proposal, I find myself ill-disposed of sufficient martial talent to discern who would be an ideal candidate. However, my learned brother, Lazare Marguerite, should be well positioned to make such a recommendation, and I shall second his wise judgment without question. Therefore, I may request that you allow me the privilege of forwarding your request to Mr. Marguerite for his fufillment.

Yours,

Condorcet.


Marguerite's response to Condorcet, shortly after posted:


My dear Condorcet,

I firmly believe that a partnership with the military to support scientific advancement is both admirable, and necessary to advance the more utilitarian of Inventions and useful Arts. Lest we return to the anti-Republican age of patronage, the military is the most egalitarian way of ensuring that such sponsorship is based on Merit and Utility. I shall ask Jean-Marie-Joseph Coutelle and Nicolas-Jacques Conte if they wish to participate. Perhaps you do not remember them from my dinner party, but they were the gentlemen vividly describing the concept of a heated "balloon" that could cross the oceans at high altitudes, taking advantage of the most favorable winds. They have repeatedly expressed interest in applying their work to a martial capacity, and I have no Doubt that they will accept.

Regards,

Marguerite


On the issue of the Wartime Acquisition Act, Condorcet speaks to his political contemporaries

After consulting with my more martially minded colleage Lazare Marguerite, I have been informed of the necessity of this act. However, as a Man of Science, I must raise the critical notion that such an act must be amended to allow those in the pursuit of scientific advancement under the auspices of research approved by the Academie des Sciences to be Exempted from any procurement Demands, and to be given priority second only to the military in their procurement of such resources. Furthermore, if the act passes as amended, I shall use my position as Permanent Secretary of the Academie des Sciences to instruct that out of all research Approved or Funded by the Academie, that which shall offer tangible benefits to our military shall receive the highest priority.

List of named members of Les Philosophes posted:

1) Marquis de Condorcet (nominal leader/founder; political scientist and mathematician)
2) Lazare Marguerite (artillerist, engineer, politician, physicist, mathematician. Historically becomes Comte Carnot in early 1800s)
3) Jean-Marie-Joseph Coutelle (chemist/physicist, amateur balloonist)
4) Nicolas-Jacques Conte (Chemist, engineer, inventor)

Hutter
Feb 16, 2011

It's been giving me nightmares.


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Gustaf af Wetterstedt Swedish Ambassador

Sometimes, mistakes are made. Sometimes there are misunderstandings. This is what happened regarding our association with the Ottomans, and their attack on Austria.

We had talks, and hoped to create a friendship of mutual understanding and need, despite being on different ends of Europe, with different culture and religion. However, mistakes were made. For that, we cant but to offer our deepest apologies and try to repent.

We had no clue of what the Ottomans planned to do, and if we had, we would do all to convince them that it was a mistake, and break up any talks if we were unable to.

The shipment to the Ottoman empire is now returning home, they have agreed to our demands on sending the weapons back. The token weapons, which were supposed to be a symbol of cooperation and friendship and NOT methods of which to be used to attack the Austrians. The weapons are now on its way home to the north. It is sad, that the bridge between our two nations has to be broken, but such is the folly of their attack on the Austrians.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.


Diplomaticus posted:

Marquis de Condorcet, writing from a small brasserie near Rue de Rivoli
After consulting with my more martially minded colleage Lazare Marguerite, I have been informed of the necessity of this act. However, as a Man of Science, I must raise the critical notion that such an act must be amended to allow those in the pursuit of scientific advancement under the auspices of research approved by the Academie des Sciences to be Exempted from any procurement Demands, and to be given priority second only to the military in their procurement of such resources.



I would look favorably upon such an amendment.

Stalingrad
Feb 5, 2011



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Dear Mr Caritat, (for the purposes of equality I will not be using your title), I have heard of your work on matters of voting, the Picard Constitution calls for a body elected by "the popular vote" and this is all, if a system could be in place, at a reasonable price of course, as we are a small state currently, which would even marginally improve the fairness of the vote, for all Men and Women Of Picardie, I would very much be grateful for such knowledge.

Science and Technology is of course, a great way to improve the health, happiness and equality of man, and thus you would be a treasured and highly respected person in the collective.

If you wish to remain in the "Republic" of course, that is your right, but the spread of knowledge is a noble pursuit, to be spread to all, no matter your personal politics.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester


Marquis de Condorcet, writing from his offices in response to Mr. Roux

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Sir,

I have Enclosed a copy of the Abstract from Essai sur l’application de l’analyse à la probabilité des décisions rendues à la pluralité des voix (Essay on the Application of Analysis to the Probability of Majority Decisions), in which I delve into detail upon the Complexities of this Method. Should you find the Concepts within to be Suitable, I shall endeavor to arrange a Meeting in which we could discuss Business matters.

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!


sniper4625 posted:

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Given Danton's unfortunate absence in this time of crisis, I have no choice but to replace him with Citoyen Saint-Juste. An intellectual man, reasonable in demeanor yet fiery in principle. I am confident he will do the job well.



I, for one, must say I gladly support this nomination, as Saint-Just's policies of being pelted by shit after revealing himself as a fake revolutionary and an opportunist are something that we very much look forward for the "republican" government to adopt.

Servant
Aug 3, 2010

... so you see, following that the will of the People cannot be reasonably interpreted down to the individual level, a legitimate government should operate purely through coin-flips...

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Louis Philippe de Bourbon, "Citoyen Unité", Minister of Finances
... and I apologize for not doing more to stop the defunding of our churches. It is true that we were in the middle of a war effort and sacrifices must be made, they must not be made on behalf of those upstanding guardians of tradition and morality! I have however secured a promise that the churches will now be fully funded at 2 credits. We have made an error in violating the Civic Constitution, and for that, we are sorry.

But we have to also have to look at the facts. Our religion is still in severe need of reform. The clergy has long since look upon themselves as an unaccountable class, just like our previous Borboun monarchical family. While many, many priests have realized the errors of their ways, even more have became willing servants of Reaction.

Even now, several members of the clergy have refused to take the Oath mandated by the Civic Constitution of the Clergy. Furthermore, some of these clergy have conspired with our enemies at home and abroad, and deserve to be executed for their treasonous actions. Our peaceful overtures towards the Papacy, to end this schism and ensure that the Catholic Church would be unified, has been violently rebuffed, with the Pope denouncing our specific brand of republicanism and remaining subservient to the forces of the Holy Roman Emperor and the corrupt Archbishop of Paris.

To make matters worse, our churches themselves have remained static and hidebound, no longer relevant to today's wordly struggles. For many radicals, this may be a sign for it to be abolished. Not so! Religion is a key part of our republicanism, a key motivation for our struggles! Yet, there needs to be a revolution within the clergy, much as the secular realm has recently experienced a revolution.

I have talked with a English phampletter who have previously served in the American Revolution. He has gave me some interesting ideas that I believe would best serve the interests of the French Republic. Though this man is not a Catholic himself, he does believe in implementing reforms that will help make religion more relevant and more useful to the modern day.

Therefore, I propose the Church Restruction Act, which will do the following:
1) A state of schism exists between the official "French Catholic Church" that remains loyal to the Civic Constitution of the Clergy, and the "Roman Catholic Church". Though all due effort will be taken to ensure that the two Churches will once again reunite as one, for now, we must strike out on our own course.
2) The French Catholic Church is hereby renamed the "Theophilanthropic Church", to demonstrate its commitment to friendship with both God and all of mankind.
3) The Churches will once again be fully funded, with 2 credits being dedicated to Church funding every turn. For now, this increased spending will be financed by loans. All Catholic churches in France will now be advocates of Theophilanthropy.
4) All the previous traditions and rituals that Catholics have performed in the past are now carried over to the Theophilanthropic Church. The Theophilanthropic Church will remain a Catholic institution, though there may be some new innovations that may be added.
5) The French Republic now gains full control of the church hierarchy. Though local priests will still be elected by their departments, the central French government will be in charge of all other religious appointments, including that of the Archbisop of Paris.
6) The President of the French Republic will also serve as the head of the Theophilanthropic Church, though the Archbishop of Paris will be responsible for day-to-day management. The Archbishop of Paris is a Cabinet-level appointment; the President may appoint and dismiss anyone to that position.
7) Antoine-Éléonor-Léon Leclerc de Juigné is formally removed from his position as Archbishop of France, to be replaced by Thomas Paine (vacant), a well-known revolutionary who is sure to lead our country to victory.
8) Those clergy who do not support the Theophilanthropic Church (including "non-juring" preists who refuse to swear loyalty to the Civic Constitution) are hereby exiled to penal colonies in Louisiana. Their property is to be seized the state and given to the preists who support Theophilanthropy.
9) The National Assembly is allowed to excommunicate traitors and criminals to Theophilanthropy. Upon passage of this act, both Antoine-Éléonor-Léon Leclerc de Juigné (ex-Archbishop of Paris), Louis Capet (the Traitor King), and Louis Stanislas Xavier (the "Regent" of France) are all hereby excommunicated.

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

I support all of the Church Reconstruction Act except the appointment of my friend Thomas Paine as head of the Church... he is not exactly known for his friendly views towards Catholicism, or organized religion in general... It would be best to appoint a willing Bishop. Paine would be at his best stirring support for our Republic in America.

I see nothing wrong with the Marquis de Condorcet (and the President's) proposed amendments to the Wartime Acquisition Act, and will vote for them. Reason will not only grant us victory in the minds of thinking men, but on the battlefield as well. I also support both the Wartime Labor Act and the Emigre Land Re-Allocation Tax Break proposed by our President.

I believe it is now time for Early Elections. The constitution has them set for summer, but I see no reason to delay the democratic process any longer, especially with so many empty seats in the assembly. I propose they be set for early January.

Friar John
Aug 3, 2007

Saint Francis be my speed! how oft to-night
Have my old feet stumbled at graves!

Georges Cadoudal

Heresiarchs and the Damned posted:

Peoples of France, hear me! For I must needs to speak with you all about this matter, so important that should I be silent I would imperil my very soul.

You have all heard the decree from the so-called "Citoyen Unité," and his half-cocked creation, which I will not even deign to name. For many months I have spoken to you all about the dangers of the Radicals, their atheism and hatred of Jesus Christ and His Church, from the very thought of the diabolic "Civil Constitution" to today. I have always spoken with the Apostle Paul in mind, for he described these men before France was even a possibility: "They profess that they know God: but in their works they deny him: being abominable and incredulous and to every good work reprobate." (Titus 1:16)

Truly, without the Rock of Peter, upon whom the earthly Church is built, the heretics and schismatics follow every whim of theirs, substituting the ideas of men for the self-revelation of God in Jesus Christ. Did not Isaiah prophecy this in Israel of old? "And the Lord said: Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips glorify me, but their heart is far from me, and they have feared me with the commandment and doctrines of men". (Is. 29:13)

Peoples of France, Antichrist is among you, and seeks the scepter of power over all the world! And he knows that the Church, universal and united with Christ as Head, is his eternal enemy, and will always seek the destruction of her, though God Himself said the gates of Hell would never prevail!

Jurors, know that God is merciful, for He let all mankind slay Him in our sin so that we may be redeemed. Be you Republican or Royalist, understand that in this we are all Christians, baptized into the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Know that should you tear down this decree, return fully to the Church of Christ, and do what you can to protect and lead your flocks to Heaven, you will have done what Christ asked of His own Apostles and Disciples. But should you turn your eyes and will from the Eternal and All-Just Trinity, you will have no one to blame but yourself when you reach that fiery prison of Hell. I do not wish such a fate on any man, which is why I must beseech you all -- deny this invention of men! Hold tightly to the Rock of Peter, and no maelstrom will be able to dislodge you, for God Himself will bind you there with His strength!

Peoples of France, always and everywhere give thanks to God, that He is testing us as He tested the early martyrs of Rome, and that in some better day in the future men will remember our names and exertions for Christ as we remember them!
La force aux chrétiens!

Private Diary posted:

...Never in my life, from my readings of History and Theology, have I come across a heresy so boring and gutless as this. At least the Protestants had fire in their bellies, and the Mohammedans will accept no compromise, warring amongst themselves and with the Christians on that account. But this... this invention is flimsy as wet paper, without blood or spirit. It is hardly religion, hardly anything more than a country club for bored satanists. These men call themselves Freethinkers, and as the maxim goes, you get what you pay for.

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

Nevermind!

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Colonel Napoléon Bonaparte, Emergency Military Governor of Louisiana

Nah

Stalingrad
Feb 5, 2011



Jacques Roux on hearing this news at lunch.

I propose, Give it back to the natives.

Tao Jones
Jun 15, 2007

That's a very courageous post, Minister!




Provided that any treaty resulting from these negotiations is understood to be the will of the French people and will be enforced by all arms of the French government, I would be happy to negotiate and submit a proposal to President Hamilton. I know the President quite well, however, and should there be any signs of disunity of opinion on this matter, I believe he will hold that the negotiation is being done in bad faith.

Stalin-Chan
Feb 11, 2009

Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. Come on.

I'm going to have Rochambeau mostly bow out as to allow more focus on defending France from outside attack, I feel like the monarchists aren't much of the focus anymore.



I will be rejoining as Joachim Murat Admiral of the Navy. (future minister perhaps?? hmmmm rumsod?)

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010


Saint-Just



An Appeal to the People of Britain

People of Britain, your nation is waging cruel WAR and BLOCKADE against us! Do they do so by your WILL? The Republic of France has never wished you any harm. We are not your enemies. We merely wish the freedom that you have already achieved; the right to choose our government, to be free, and to enjoy the blessings of liberty. Why has your government attached itself to the cause of Louis XVI? Have not the Bourbon kings always been enemies of your nation? Are they not still your enemies? How do either of our nations benefit by war? Do we not benefit more from pacific trade? We should be friends. We must be friends. Parliament of Britain, do not allow your nation to be dragged into a war that will not serve your interests! Stop it, for everyone's sake.

AndItsAllGone
Oct 8, 2003




Alexis Le Veneur de Tillières, Maréchal de France, commandant l'Armée du Rhin
An address to his gathered soldiers and officers, December 1792

Men of France! Soldiers of the Rhine! The forces of injustice have aligned themselves against us. From every horizon, enemies swear to destroy this nation and subjugate us all once more beneath the yoke of tyrannical oppression. The sneering princes of Europe have attempted already to invade France, but our gallant brothers in the Army of the North repelled them with the fury of a free people!

It now falls to us to defend not just France and her people, but the promise of freedom itself. Your children's children will look to you, in this cold winter, as the heroes of an entire race of men and women from Iberia to the Baltic Sea! This all turns on our commitment to destroy not just the armies of our enemies, but their ability to oppress and enslave their peoples. We will face Prussian and Austrian soldiers on the field of battle and you will destroy them with no remorse, but we will not stop there! All their tools of tyranny shall lie broken at our feet.

This winter will likely be your last opportunity to enjoy the comforts of peace before we are all plunged into the fires of war. Let us not weaken in our resolve as we march forth in our duties. Long live the Republic, and long live the People of France!

WhitemageofDOOM
Sep 13, 2010

... It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit.

YF-23 posted:

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Colonel Napoléon Bonaparte, Emergency Military Governor of Louisiana

Nah

(Ok this is just the best possible response to someone trying to send history on track with regards to the Louisiana purchase.)

rakovsky maybe
Nov 4, 2008


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Général Michel Ney, commander of l’Armée des Alpes

Response to Condorcet posted:


Dear Sir,

I would be greatly pleased if you did follow through and send word of my proposal to Mr. Marguerite. If you ever need anything of me, do not be hesitant to ask.

Sincerely,

Général Michel Ney

WhitemageofDOOM
Sep 13, 2010

... It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit.

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Koca Yusuf Pasha, Ambassador of the Ottoman Empire

Hutter posted:

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Gustaf af Wetterstedt Swedish Ambassador

Sometimes, mistakes are made. Sometimes there are misunderstandings. This is what happened regarding our association with the Ottomans, and their attack on Austria.

We had talks, and hoped to create a friendship of mutual understanding and need, despite being on different ends of Europe, with different culture and religion. However, mistakes were made. For that, we cant but to offer our deepest apologies and try to repent.

We had no clue of what the Ottomans planned to do, and if we had, we would do all to convince them that it was a mistake, and break up any talks if we were unable to.

The shipment to the Ottoman empire is now returning home, they have agreed to our demands on sending the weapons back. The token weapons, which were supposed to be a symbol of cooperation and friendship and NOT methods of which to be used to attack the Austrians. The weapons are now on its way home to the north. It is sad, that the bridge between our two nations has to be broken, but such is the folly of their attack on the Austrians.

If you wish to remain neutral in this and did not understand our intentions, i do not wish to damage further relations with Sweden upon a simple misunderstanding. You may have your canons back in mint condition, though we will be continuing our army modernization efforts without your aid unhindered.

It Shall be oh so much more satisfying to shoot the Austrians with canons of German manufacture anyways.

a bad enough dude
Jun 30, 2007

APPARENTLY NOT A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO STICK TO ONE THING AT A TIME WHETHER ITS PBPS OR A SHITTY BROWSER GAME THAT I BEG MONEY FOR AND RIPPED FROM TROPICO. ALSO I LET RETARDED UKRANIANS THAT CAN'T PROGRAM AND HAVE 2000 HOURS IN GARRY'S MOD RUN MY SHIT.



Général Lafayette, Minister of War, Commander of the National Guard

After some discussion, it has been determined that the selling off of parts of the Louisiana Territory will have to be postponed for now. However, I still support that letters of marque for English ships be offered to American privateers and that Saint-Dominigue be handed over to the United States for an appropriate price.

Tao Jones
Jun 15, 2007

That's a very courageous post, Minister!




I shall pass along whatever proposals your government sees fit to extend. However, as I mentioned to the War Minister when he first broached this topic to me, knowing Mr. Hamilton as I do, I am extremely doubtful that he would be amenable to purchasing St. Dominigue without Louisiana.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

It is a foolish man indeed who attacks his fellow man when there are literal crocodile-men eating Virginians.




Legislative Support

Wartime Acquisition Act, with all amendments
Letters of Marque Act
St. Domingue Sale Act
Emigre Land Re-Allocation Tax Break
Wartime Labor Act
Church Reconstruction Act, substituting a reliable Parisian priest for Thomas Paine re: Archbishop appointment.

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