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Marcelino Domingo Minister of Agriculture, Industry, and Trade Socialist Radical Republican Party The Re-amended Land Nationalisation Act I vote in favour The Temporary Wage Protection Act I vote in favour The Nationalised Banking, Loans and Investment Act I vote in favour Further I propose, The Expanded Land Nationalisation Act which expands the Re-amended Land Nationalisation Act to include the purchase without choice of privately owned farmland, if neither the owner nor his family physically work the farm. I vote in Favor
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Alejandro Lerroux Radical Republican Party Canasta_Nasty posted:The Expanded Land Nationalisation Act I vote against. The Re-amended Land Nationalization Act is good enough as it is. We don't need to swing things back in the direction we just came from.
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Marcelino Domingo Minister of Agriculture, Industry, and Trade Radical Socialist Republican Party I would like to remind the Minister of Justice that his party, the PRRS, will not tolerate violence against the workers and we encourage a peaceful resolution to the situation in Seville. The fight against corruption is important but widespread violence will not help the situation. The unity of our party depends on it as this is an issue I would seek your expulsion over.
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Dec 23, 2011 14:25
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José María Gil-Robles Acción Nacional Regarding the agriculture bill, I would like to remind the government that the problem is not the production of food, it is the distribution. We are in fact an exporter of food, reform to the production side is only going to further increase the instability. The principle behind the act, which is that hard working businessmen are intentionally leaving arable land unfarmed, is ludicrous. Maybe some scheme to help invest in modern farming methods The re-amended land nationalisation act is nothing but naked class warfare, and I must advise any member of the right coalition to vote against it. This act is a terrible mistake and will only reduce employment and increase unrest across the country, betraying the trust that many have placed in our republic as well as threatening our food supply. Need I point to the total failure of the siexing of land in the Soviet Union ten years ago, which required the implementation of the New Economic Policy? I vote against the reamended land nationalisation act, for the little good it will do. Finally I would like to warn against damaging the economic progress that this republic has so wisely embarked on over the last six months, and so must vote against both the Temporary Wage Protection Act and the Nationalised Banking, Loans and Investment Act, as both will only serve to slow down growth and threaten more hardworking Spanish families with the terrible consequences of unemployment.
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Canasta_Nasty posted:Marcelino Domingo Alvaro de Albornoz Minister of Justice Anyone who interferes with our investigation is getting locked up. Anyone who doesn't will not. The only persons threatened by this would be the corrupt and the lawbreakers. Justice is for all, not just those without connections in the unions. If you disagree with this, start your expulsion proceedings. We will see where they get you.
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Manuel Azaña Prime Minister and Minister of War Republican Action Motion to Dismiss the Minister of Justice I vote in favor. Calling for violence against protesters or strikers is unacceptable for a minister, especially from a member of the RSRP.
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Dec 23, 2011 16:55
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Inspector Detector posted:Calling for violence against protesters or strikers ...has never happened. In fact we've made clear that they can strike and protest all they like.
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Dec 23, 2011 17:05
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Francisco Largo Caballero Minister Of Labour Spanish Socialist Worker’s Party General Union of Workers Motion to Dismiss the Minister of Justice I vote in favour
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Dec 23, 2011 17:37
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Marcelino Domingo Minister of Agriculture, Industry, and Trade Radical Socialist Republican Party Motion to Dismiss the Minister of Justice I vote in favor This is a difficult vote for me as I respect the role Sr. Albornoz has played the development of the PRRS. However threatening a Minister of this Government with violence is an unconscionable step and unbecoming the man in charge of keeping the peace. It sharply escalates the potential for violence. Minister of Justice to the Minister of Labor posted:Make no mistake. We will not make a cause of those you have tricked into aiding you. The people on the street will not be arrested or harassed simply for protesting and striking. You, on the other hand, I do not think you have the stomach for martyrdom.
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Dec 23, 2011 18:20
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Department of Justice cracks down on corruption! Minister of Justice promptly dismissed! How very expected.
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"...Are to we continue tolerating the lies of the far-left as they seek to monopolize power? Are we to continue their attacks on our Catholic heritage, their hare-brained social re-engineering schemes, their radical budget? Now, the so-called "socialist" unions engage in outright corruption and defend its illegitimate actions through economically damaging activities, and when our honorable Head of the Police respond, he is dismissed? The socialists have abandoned any sort of pretense of respectability; they have became outright criminals! Shameless criminals! This 'republic' is an outright fraud; we shall have no dealings with those that protect and shelter criminals and scum. But the problems in Spain goes much deeper than this simple incident of "law and order". We must establish a new order, one free from conservative oligarchs and secular socialists/anarchists. Oppression is oppression, whether it comes from the left or the right. An important Spanish essaysist, Ramiro Ledesma Ramos, proposed "National Syndicalism" as a solution to the problems of Spain...a system where right-wing unions will take over the economy of Spain, and manage industry for the good of the State. Through such a planned economy, we will ensure economic prosperity and social justice. Under my leadership, I formed the Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista (Unions of the National-Syndicalist Offensive) based on the ideas of Ramiro Ledesma. The Juntas is an confederation of trade unions that wish to pursue such a great and worthy goal...to organize the workers for the common defense of their interests through the uses of general strikes and paramilitary units. And we will reject the authority of the Republic and the dire threat of socialism that it protects. We will fight and suppress all corruption and criminals, for criminal activity threatens the lives of all workers. And, we will aim to bring about the fall of this immoral Republic and replace it with a new order based on National Syndicalism. Today, the Unión General de Trabajadores may claim victory. Tomorrow, let us see what tomorrow brings." ---Onésimo Redondo Ortega Contact: igorhorst at gmail dot com
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I'd like to join as Santiago Casares Quiroga, please! My email is palindrones aatt gee mail dottt com I'm also on IRC! And I have forum PM!
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NEXT TURN IS DUE WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 28, AT 11 PM LEGISLATIVE NEWS The Temporary Wage Protection Act: Leftist as well as left-leaning centrists support this motion, and it passes. Exploitation of government aid programs largely stops, though the rate of decreasing unemployment is slowed a tiny amount. The Nationalised Banking, Loans and Investment Act: This act passes by a slim margin. The National Bank of Spain is created, and the bank is quickly becoming the institution of choice for the poor both for savings as well as the advantages of low-interest loans. Businesses, however, seem very reluctant to ask for loans at the cost of possible nationalization. Fight Against Government Corruption Act: Widespread support among leftists and centrists allows this bill to pass. Records are opened to the public. Amended Fight Against Financial Corruption Act: Without the support of much of the cabinet, the leftists are split resulting in this bill's failure. Re-amended Land Nationalisation Act and Expanded Land Nationalisation Act: Marxists and Anarchists are unwilling to pass anything less then the extended plan, while Rightists refuse to vote for any sort of land reform at all. The Re-amended version has support among the center and more moderate republican left, but the more radical members consider it an unacceptable compromise. Fighting over these two bills prevents either of them from passing. Motion to Dismiss the Minister of Justice: This vote is close, but with other members of the cabinet speaking out against him and the dislike of leftists as well as his own political party, this resolution passes and Alvaro de Albornoz is removed from his post. The vote is purely along political lines - leftists voting for it while centrists and conservatives vote against. Among the public the reaction is the same, with opinions being entirely based political viewpoints. Leftist support increases, but centrist and conservative support decreases. Also, fighting between members of the cabinet makes the government look weak. DOMESTIC NEWS Prime Minister Azaña and Minister of Labor Caballero travel to Seville to stand in solidarity with the strikers while simultaneously urging restraint from violent activity. This is largely successful, and there are no major clashes between police and protesters. General Franco tries to deal with budget cuts as best he can and continues military training with France. He makes a statement urging calm and condemning civil unrest. The Spanish airplane industry becomes slightly successful, with Spanish planes being bought by flight enthusiasts as well as small companies. Marcelino Domingo establishes a model farm program to show how modern agricultural techniques, though in the wake of land reform failure there are few people to educate. The Soviet Union initiates a new trade for Spanish goods. Support by the upper class for the government decreases as many see it as being too radical - talk of nationalization in the Cortes, high taxes, and removing justice ministers is too much for many of them. Many aristocrats and members of the bourgeoisie join National Action. José María Gil-Robles writes newspaper articles decrying the government's leftist ideology and particularly their conduct regarding the Minister of Justice. His words ring true with a segment of society. Alejandro Lerroux founds the newspaper "El Republicano". He is able to find funding from wealthy businessmen. His newspaper largely charts a centrist, pro-Republic course, appealing primarily to the middle class and educated. The UGT under Caballero creates a number of funds from member dues: an Investment Fund, Crises Fund, Security Fund, and Charity Fund. These attract many members of the population to the UGT, specifically people with more moderate political viewpoints who want access to the considerable benefits. Albornoz's crusade against corruption ends with his removal from the government. The police, specifically members of the FIE, arrest local Sevillan UGT leadership on corruption charges. The main leader is charged with embezzling, extortion, bribery, encouraging political violence and disturbing public order. Some of his aids are charged with obstruction of justice. Police Chief Mola declares that free speech in Spain is still protected, though many leftists find the situation unbearable. FOREIGN NEWS Official hostilities between Japan and the Republic of China end. The state of Manchukuo is created from former Chinese Manchuria. Pu Yi, ousted ex-ruler of the Qing Empire, is declared Emperor of Manchukuo. External observers criticize the new state as being a mere Japanese puppet government. Paul von Hindenburg defeats Adolf Hitler in Germany's presidential elections. His administration moves increasingly to the right in order to placate extremist political groups in Germany. The failure of his cabinet results in its dismissal and a call for new elections. Albert Lebrun, leader of a center-right coalition in France, comes to power. quote:
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Toribio Echevarría Ibarbia excerpts from an article in The Socialist, which puts out special editions dealing with the situation in Seville to ensure that 'the people are heard') "...is it any wonder that the unions do not trust the police, when reports are coming in that the Civil Guard is firing anyone found reading copies of leftist literature or holding leftist views? The Socialist has learned...." here, a lengthy interview with an officer from the Civil Guard in northern Spain who claims that he was fired from his post when a commanding officer found copies of El Socialista. According to him, the Civil Guard are removing anyone who has even the tiniest left-leaning political views. Photographs are run of the complaining officer, as well as the commander he claims fired him. "...this mutual distrust has brought us to our present untenable position in Seville, and here, my comrades, we see what happens when such matters are allowed to get out of control. "El Socialista has learned that the union leader under investigation is guilty... of about ten percent of the charges pending against him. Specifically, he has embezzled a considerable sum from the UGT's coffers - but he is also under investigation for bribery, encouraging political violence and disturbing the public order - all of which there is precisely zero evidence to support. "It appears that our Ministry of Justice, in their zeal, found an incident of corruption and intended to use the situation to inflame public sentiment by scapegoating the man for every ill imaginable under the sun! "El Socialista believes that this man, this so-called "union leader" is a vile traitor to the cause of socialism, having lined his own pockets at the expense of his fellow working man, and he must be punished. But our police forces have gone too far also; we can see no reason for the overzealous investigation that has so inflamed the situation in Seville..." here follow excerpts, quite obviously taken directly from the documents of the supposedly-secret investigation, that illustrate both the man's embezzlement and the police's overzealousness in investigation; they have been carefully excerpted to make it difficult if not impossible to determine who got them to the newspaper "...we call upon the UGT to remove this man from power immediately, and to turn him over to the civil authorities - and we call, also, upon the acting Ministry of Justice to halt this ongoing witch hunt. We commend the police for finding this corrupt bastard, and we hope he rots in prison for his vile crimes, but the deliberate scapegoating of the left must cease, and the ideological purge of the Civil Guard must be halted - and reversed, if possible. "It is, perhaps, instructive that, of all people, we here at El Socialista would call for calm and compromise. It is not our strongest suit, we confess. But in this instance, it appears to be wise."
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Dec 24, 2011 00:06
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Santiago Casares Quiroga Minster of the Interior I would like to announce my candidacy for the Minister of Justice. Through reforms of the police, judicial systems, and government, I will ensure that all investigations are free of the violent political rhetoric of the former Minister of Justice and keep the interests of the Spanish people at heart.
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Dec 24, 2011 00:33
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General Luis Lombarte Serrano The Air Force training program has proceeded apace thus far. Our domestic airplane production industry is finding its footing, and we believe that soon things will be working well. However, as we continue production, we are forced to consider certain aspects of airplane production that will be important for the future of our forces, and our military in general. At the moment, there is no standardized gauge for munitions and spare parts. Purchasing parts from other nations serves only to service the cobbled-together fleet of airplanes we have at the moment is not the way forward to the future. I hereby request that some lawmaker sponsor the following bill for debate, I am no lawmaker myself and can not propose it to the assembly: Spanish Aeronautics Industry A 10-credit loan is to be taken to establish Aereas Espanola, an airforce testing and production industry in cooperation with private industry but under the control of the air force/government. Our goal is to license and produce aircraft, engines, and parts of Soviet design, for both domestic use and export as an income-generator to help fund government programs. Half of all profits will be paid to the loan and half to help fund the air force itself, until such a time as the loan is repaid. After the loan is repaid, half of all profits will be used to fund the air force, to produce airplanes, parts and to pay the salaries of officers. The other half is to go to the government's general fund to be used for the betterment of the Spanish people. This will help cement a friendship with the Soviet Union, as well as providing a source of income for me to allow the Air Force to function and modernize in support of the government and the defense of the Spanish Republic. As this industry would be wholly new, it could be established in one of the poorer regions of Spain, to help alleviate unemployment, and all workers would of course be unionized.
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Oh fucking hell I thought the last turn was due on the 24th. I'm shit at this.
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Francisco Largo Caballero Minister Of Labour Spanish Socialist Worker’s Party General Union of Workers Now that the investigation is over I will call for an end to the Seville strikes, but let this be a reminder to all; we of the UGT shall not be unfairly discriminated against. We can rely on the voracity and incorrigibility of the courts to ensure justice is done. This ex-UGT man will be found guilty of the embezzlement he conducted, and innocent of the other false charges. quote:Spanish Aeronautics Industry I hear-by propose the Spanish Aeronautics Industry act on behalf of General Luis Lombarte Serrano. It is an interesting and useful proposal, which stands to significantly increase our economic strength and our standing in the world stage. Indebting ourselves so soon may be dangerous, but otherwise I have little problem with this. I would also suggest the creation of a research and development wing of the Aereas Espanola, so that we can eventually improve and update the current designs. I also propose the following acts; The Work Safety Act This act will ensure all businesses must adhere to basic protocols to ensure the safety of their employee's within the workspace. This will mainly be done by the training and supervision of workers to ensure that employees can carry out their jobs safely and by keeping the workplace environment safe and healthy for workers. The Mine Establishment Act Given that the American Wall Street Crash has caused many of our mines to close, this act will nationalise many of the currently closed mines and reopen them for use, as well as subsidising the few mines still in operation. This act will also work in tandem with the; The Temporary Material Extension Act Raw material extracted from nationalised mines will be sold to Spanish businesses at half their market price, on the proviso that these businesses will immediately and only use these resources for manufacturing, production and construction. Any business found hoarding or selling off these resources will be heavily fined and banned from further use of this program. The aeronautics business proposed by General Luis will be the primary beneficiary of this act, given it's important work in production and development, though any other business, private or public, will also be able to take part in the program. I would also like to say that this act will be TEMPORARY. It will temporarily be used to kickstart our manufacturing and construction sectors. The Education Standardisation Act This act will establish a standard curriculum for 5 to 14 year-olds, which will concern itself with teaching writing and reading of our official and regional languages, mathematics, the history of Spain, and the sciences. The Cultural Safeguard Act The economic problems of our nation have hit us all hard, but the hardest hit are the poorest members of our society. This act will primarily function to safeguard the artistic talent of the poorest strata's of our nation by buying the work of would be artists for display in national galleries or reselling to interested collectors. Artwork included by this act will be music, paintings, novels, sculptures, plays and photography. At a later date, artwork gathered in this manner will also be used in government run cultural programs, although simply safeguarding the artistic talent of Spain is enough for now. The National Fishing Fleet Act Given that land reform is a heavily politicised subject, an example of the superiority of collectivised and modernised industry is necessary. Therefore I propose the establishment of the National Fishing Fleet, a nationalised fishing and fishery industry owned by the government, which will safely and sustainably fish the waters of Spain using collectivised and modernised techniques. This nationalised business will act as a competitor to current private ones, until such a time that they willingly become nationalised themselves. Please abstain from voting until I have a chance to improve them with the input of our comrades. I welcome all criticism and improvements my fellow Spaniards can bring to these acts and hope that the recent idealogical problems can be dealt with swiftly and peacefully.
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"... The Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista will closely monitor the progress of the UGT trials, but express great concern that justice will not be served, as the Republic has already removed Alvaro de Albornoz from office and the UGT claimed victory. Though the Republic is a fraud, the Courts are known to be uncorrupt. Still, we must be ever-vigilant. A result that does not result in the conviction of the "Seville UGT union leader" of all the charges levied against him is a result that has been probably pre-tampered with. We also note that The Socialist and Francisco Largo Caballero, in their haste to blame all their ills on one lone "Seville UGT leader"...'forgot' to mention the slight issue of the rest of the local Sevillan UGT leadership being arrested as well, some of them on the serious charge of "obstruction of justice". Do they aim to throw the "Seville UGT leader" under the bus while protecting his henchmen from retaliation? And while all this happen, the Republic cannot even agree on how to deal with the pressing issue of land reform! But it seems that the socialists are far more interested in lining their own pockets and protecting political corruption than they are with the plight of the actual workers. ..."
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Alvaro de Albornoz Just some guy! The Former minister makes a brief public statement - "I, Alvaro de Albornoz, do hereby accept the vote of the parliament and step down from leadership of the ministry of justice. I renounce all ties with my former party. I do not desire to belong to any organization that places nepotism above justice. It seems my actions against corruption have worked too well. When the left had to take their hand out of the cookie jar along with the monarchists and the centrists, well, that was simply too much for them to bear it would seem. The race will now begin to find the most weak willed, compliant, mouse in the government to replace me. Someone who the ministers can trust to look the other way while they rob Spain blind. To the police and the courts I say - remember that your loyalty is to Spain, not one man or any group of them, but all people of your country. Do not shirk in your responsibilities simply for fear of being dismissed for doing your job. Likewise, do not abandon your responsibilities out of disappointment in our lame duck government. To the people of Spain, I apologize for the failure of the government of which I was a part. We promised freedom, but an aristocracy remains, with leftists acting above the law due to their political majority. While I take solace from the fact that I am unwelcome in such a petty tyranny, I weep for the future of Spain."
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Noreaus posted:Oh fucking hell I thought the last turn was due on the 24th. I'm shit at this. Thats probably my fault, I originally put that it was due Friday the 24th since I'm an idiot. Sorry! Also SlothBear you are still in Parliament so you can vote on/propose legislation still.
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I knew you changed it. Bloody hell.  I'll make sure to submit a kickin' rad turn this turn.
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Manuel Azaña Prime Minister and Minister of War Republican Action Let me say just this for now. The FIE is receiving the bulk of the police budget and has produced nothing aside from persecuting Spaniards with left-leaning politics. There is still violence in our cities. The Cortes will be seriously reevaluating the police budget in light of Director Mola's actions, and all Spaniards need to be asking themselves if they want their tax money going towards squelching freedoms.
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Marcelino Domingo Minister of Agriculture, Industry, and Trade Radical Socialist Republican Party Yearly Retrospective There have been some impressive successes this year and some disappointing setbacks. Most importantly we have reduced the unemployment rate by a full 2%. I know some harsh words were exchanged between myself and the prime minister over this budget, but given the results I hope we can work well together in crafting a new one. I hope that General Serrano of the airforce can forgive the delay while I experimented with agriculture, but we now have a budding aeronautics industry. I hope to push it further and encourage our pilots and aeronautics workers to develop a close relationship to facilitate quick development. Most troubling though has been my failure to bring our agriculture into the modern era. I hoped that other leftists, would vote for both nationalization plans as I did, rather than split the vote. I blame myself for not explaining the need for land reform well enough to the Cortes Generales. Our land is divided between two awful styles of agriculture: latifundismo and minifundismo. The latifundios are giant tracts of land with little irrigation, producing a low yield, and generally focused on commodities like olive oil and wine. The majority of our farmland lies within these latifundios that only make up a few percent of our total farms. These are also the centers for rural illiteracy as the jornaleros and braceros who work this land are the poorest section of society. The minifundios are tiny family farms that are too small to make good use of modern equipment like tractors, or cropdusters if our aeronautics industry really takes off. Between these two systems we can be a net-exporter of food commodities, like wine and olive oil, yet still have desperate hunger. I have tried subsidizing fertilizer and tractor factories, but the aristocrats would not buy them. I have tried demonstrating the benefits of the new techniques on my test farm but still the aristocrats were uninterested. These feudal relics stand in the way of food-security and general prosperity, and we must act! I will make my proposals on this front and the budget, after further discussion with other ministers.
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Emilio Mola, El Director, National PoliceInspector Detector posted:Manuel Azaña quote:Crime: Rural areas are generally well-protected and patrolled. Cities still have a considerable degree of political violence, but corruption has decreased meaningfully. El Director reminds His Excellency that political rhetoric is not the same thing as hard facts. If His Excellency wishes to listen to rabble-rousers that distort the truth, that's fine; however he should not make such statements on behalf of the Cortes Generales. The Police have made extensive gains in reducing corruption, and even political violence is down from where it was in the past year. Our cross-training with the Guardia Civil has been successful in improving the quality of our police force AND the military elite. Our police and elite guards are actively engaging with the people, learning where their freedoms are being squelched, and working to protect them against those who would seek to abuse the populace. Frankly, El Director is shocked that His Excellency would seek to misrepresent the facts so grievously for political gain. The police do not work for party, nor do they work for ideology. We work for Spain. I call upon His Excellency the Prime Minister to retract these despicable comments, and acknowledge the great successes that our brave police have accomplished.
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 Alejandro Lerroux Radical Republican Party From an article in 'El Republicano' Alejandro Lerroux posted:I know that I frequently mention that I am worried about the state of our young republic, but it seems again and again we are running ourselves into bumps and obstacles which may drive us off the road into peace and prosperity. Our nation is at a crossroads, and everybody seems to want to pull us in a different direction. If we are not careful, we will just be torn apart. I would like to address a problem of the recently created nationalized banking and low-interest loan system. Most parts of the system are running well, but it has failed in winning the confidence of prospective businessmen. Considering that the bank is supposed to mainly help fund new businesses, this is something that shouldn't be ignored. As such, I propose the Helping Small Business Act. This legislation shall change the newly-created national banking system so that taking a loan for the sake of starting a business will not result in that business becoming nationalized. These low-interest loans will operate like any similar loan given by a private bank. About other acts: quote:Spanish Aeronautics Industry I like the idea of this act, but ten credits is a very big amount to take in a loan. The amount of credits taken in the loan should be cut in half. quote:The Work Safety Act I have no problems with this act. quote:The Mine Establishment Act I have no objections to this, either. But... quote:The Temporary Material Extension Act This doe not seem like a good idea to me. While having cheap materials is nice, this is too expensive and risky, especially when combined with the other big economic projects you are proposing. Going ahead with this plan may just kick-start businesses which are ultimately unprofitable in normal market conditions. We may just see a collapse when we stop selling minerals at a loss, and it would end up being a big waste. quote:The Education Standardisation Act This is fine. quote:The Cultural Safeguard Act This is fine as well. quote:The National Fishing Fleet Act This act is unnecessary. Your other nationalization acts seem to mainly fill a void where private businesses do not exist. For instance, buying unused farmland, closed down mines, or establishing a new aeronautics industry. But it seems here that you want to insert nationalization into an area where private business is doing fine. In your proposal, you state that you want to demonstrate "the superiority of collectivised and modernised industry". Frankly, this sounds like you are trying to push a collectivist political agenda rather than fix an urgent economic need. You are already proposing to establish two other nationalized industries. There is no need to go ahead and nationalize fishing as well. Doing this will probably send a signal to the businesses of the country that you want to nationalize everything, and that is not what everybody wants. Please, just slow down. If you keep going at a pace like this you're going to worry a lot of people.
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Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista ---- "... First Alvaro de Albornoz and now Director Mola? The police is being persecuted for only doing its job and, not just doing its job, but doing an admirable job cracking down on political violence and corruption. Has the Republic no shame? Law and order must be protected, but the police's hands are tied by an entity that profits from corruption and criminal activity. ..." ---- Decree #001 of the Juntas "The failure of the Second Spanish Republic to address the pressing problem of land reform is plain for all to see. Instead of fulfilling the demands of the peasantry, the leftists continue acting as a common criminal gang. The Juntas has debated in private over how to address the problem of land reform, and have decided on unilateral action. The current government is illegitimate, and the peasants deserve action on this issue. The purity of the Spanish peasant is unquestionable, the greed of the rich landowners insatiable, that action is required. The Spanish peasant will receive what he deserved, and we will work now to provide what he deserve. We ultimately determine that a policy of large-scale land seizure and expropriation, while appealing to peasant demands in the short-term, would lead to instability and lowered agricultural yields. In addition, many members of the Juntas argued that such large-scale land seizures will undermine the principle of "private property", a principle that served Spain for a very long time. Therefore, we searched for an alternative solution. Ramiro Ledesma Ramos then helpfully drew up a system by which farmers can directly own the means of production, without the need of land seizures. In each latifundia, the peasent will elect a "Manager", who will then control all aspects of the farm, from wages to hours worked. The Manager will obviously take into account the interests of the employers of the farm, but he will also be advised by farming experts, as well as by the peasants that the Manager represent. This system respects private property, as the owner of each latifundia keeps his land...but the owner must obey whatever the manager says. Through this system, we ensure a land reform program where farmers gain full ownership of the land they till, while avoiding social instability and disruption that land seizures would cause. After a spirited discussion, we affirmed Ramos' proposal as a part of our union's platform: 30 unions in favor and 5 unions abstaining. We will be implementing a trial of this system in Madrid and Castile, and will hopefully extend it across Spain. We will be taking control of latifundias and organizing elections for "workers' managers". The decrees of these managers will be enforced by our militias. We will move forward with land reform, even when the Cortes paralyze itself with internal debate and the socialists run abated with criminal activity and interfere with the work of our loyal police.
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General José Sanjurjo, El León del Rif, Commander of La Guardia Civil I am greatly saddened and disheartened at the events that have transpired in the past few months. The Parliament has removed a Justice Minister for investigating a man who's own labor union has found to be guilty! The men who are supposed to represent the people end up protecting their own cronies at the cost of the blood and sweat of the people! How can you live with yourself Sr. Caballero? How can you claim to be for the people when you protect thieves who steal from your own Union members? Now the Prime Minister and his gang of do-nothings are threatening to cut our budgets now that we are making headway? We are continuing to work in coordination with the police to cut down on political violence and arrest the murderous thugs who threaten our citizens, regardless of party affiliation. Cutting our budgets would mean these monsters are given free reign to terrorize the people. Of course, having their thugs roam the streets benefits those in power. They can manipulate you, they can come to your home and beat you in front of your family until you cast your vote for them. They have no interest in the freedoms and rights of the people, you are simply another number to them! Now, we are left begging to keep our funds, begging for help to combat this sickness that infects our cities! Meanwhile our Prime Minister ignores the problem, does he not see the bodies in the streets? Does he not see the obituaries? Does he not see the blood that stains our streets? How can he make promises to the people when he clearly does not care for the safety? Rest assured they will continue to push to cut our funds and support, whether you like it or not. They care not for your safety, not for your livelihood, only to line their pockets with the money you earned while their thugs beat you into complacency. Speak out with your voice, and with your vote! Por España!
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Dec 24, 2011 13:46
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I'm going to switch my role to: Diego Abad de Santillan, a leader in the Federación Anarquista Ibérica, a radical faction within the CNT.
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Dec 24, 2011 13:49
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Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista We side with José Sanjurjo and express great concern at the grievances he has aired. If the La Guardia Civil needs funding and the state will not provide it to them, then the government must be held responsible for the crisis that is to come.
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Dec 24, 2011 13:53
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Manuel Azaña Prime Minister and Minister of War Republican Action Despite your claims to the contrary, General Sanjurjo, the Civil Guard and the FIE are gleefully shedding the blood of innocents merely exercising their rights in the streets of our cities, and Director Mola has wholly abused his position to create his own praetorian guard at the expense of the actual police, who are the ones that provide actual safety to the public. The Prime Minister's office announces an official investigation into the activities and conduct of Director Mola and the FIE. Furthermore, I recommend Alejandro Lerroux of the Radical Republican Party as this government's new Justice Minister.
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Dec 24, 2011 13:57
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General José Sanjurjo, El León del Rif Commander of La Guardia Civil What bloodshed? Have you seen any reports of violence or brutality by the police or Civil Guard? No, because there are none! The only bloodshed is from the party thugs whom we are working so diligently to stop! How can you stand there and make false, slanderous accusations like that? Your lies are sickening, Prime Minister. I am ashamed to call you a Spaniard! We have observed the civil rights of all during our anti-crime campaign, which is working despite your best efforts! You should reconsider your priorities, Señor Prime Minister. You need to spend less time lying and more time actually working to combat the problems that plague our country!
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Dec 24, 2011 14:03
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José María Gil-Robles Acción Nacional I am confused at the prime minister's response to this crisis. When a union member is investigated for corruption, the justice minister is dismissed. When the police investigate corruption, they are attacked by the socialist government. This is most worrying, does the ruling coalition not want corruption to be investigated? You claim that the FIE are spilling the blood of innocents in the Seville investigation, but there has seemingly been no blood spilled. The FIE have indeed performed their stated role; they have investigated corruption and rooted it out where it exists. They have performed their job admirably, while the union has in turn made its dissatisfaction shown by questionably reasonable but nonviolent strikes. I wish to see evidence of this blood of innocents presented to the parliament, justify these claims that have been made against the Chief of Police and show that he has done wrong and that the investigation has proceeded outside of that which is reasonably expected during these tense times. Until then, he is innocent. We cannot be expected to have one law for the people and another for the union leaders. That is no different to how we were before, with the people oppressed the privileged monarchy.
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Dec 24, 2011 14:22
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Alejandro Lerroux Radical Republican Party Inspector Detector posted:Furthermore, I recommend Alejandro Lerroux of the Radical Republican Party as this government's new Justice Minister. I accept the Prime Minister's generous nomination. The justice ministry is an important post, especially at the current time. There are many accusations that have been flying around lately, about corruption and discrimination. I think it is plain to everybody that there are powerful groups of people that don't trust one another. If we are not careful, this whole thing may just get out of control. If I am justice minister, I intend to erase the doubt that is central to many of these arguments. If one group calls another corrupt and discriminatory, I shall look and see if there is any truth to the accusation, and I shall find proof. This is what justice is based on, after all. It is not about accusations, it is about proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. I believe that if we do not investigate these arguments and objectively determine the truth, then people will just keep accusing and arguing forever. We must not let these arguments tear us apart. We should be better than that.
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Dec 24, 2011 14:47
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Emilio Mola, El Director, National Police El Director is disappointed in the reaction from the Prime Minister. El Director will of course cooperate with any lawful investigation, though it remains to be seen how one may be conducted with no leadership presently in the Justice Ministry. Yet, regardless of these procedural concerns, El Director knows that such investigation, though a waste of time, will ultimately present to His Excellency the Prime Minister that which the rest of Spain already knows -- that there has been no bloodshed, and these accusations are spurious. Furthermore, Sr. Lerroux's words are heartening. El Director urges His Excellency the Prime Minister to listen to them.
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Dec 24, 2011 14:53
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Toribio Echevarría Ibarbia Writer, El Socialista newspaper; member, Unión General de Trabajadores; member, Partido Socialista Obrero Español; not a government employee "...and now, gentle reader, I must shock you. Yes - for twice in rapid succession I must set aside my natural inclinations and call for a collective deep breath. "Reports of infighting and factionalism throughout government meetings are on every pair of lips; blame is apportioned, fingers pointed, invective hurled. The ramifications of the Seville Situation ripple throughout Parliament like a stone striking a pond. "For years, the police have been the tools of the elitist bourgeois swine who collectively have striven to strike the working man low - and I have called, we all have called, on those outside the left to remember that our mistrust of the police is not an irrational bias, but has instead been inculcated within us after long, hard years of training. As a child who burns his hand on a fire learns not to touch the flame, so too have those of us who have experienced the cruel impact of the policeman's truncheon learned not to trust those who would wield them. "But the recent crisis bears fruit even more bitter than that. "The dismissal of our Minister of Justice and the scapegoating of Emilio Mola are not rational acts - they are acts borne of our rage, our suffering. 'Now that we hold the truncheon,' we cry, 'we'll show you bastards what it's like!' Only in this case the truncheon is the club of political power, and it is being wielded even more bluntly than any jackbooted thug could manage. "I have offered to Alvaro de Albornoz an interview, to be published in this newspaper, that he may have the opportunity to present information that may not yet have come to light, to present his 'side of the story.' I have even offered to ensure that he sees any article before it goes to print, so that he may be assured that there is no undue editorial slant or misattribution printed. Thus far Sr. de Albornoz has declined this invitation, though it remains open to him. "Director Mola's FIE is abhorrent unto me - secret police have no place in any society worthy of the name - but our Prime Minister must take care not to be caught up in a witch hunt of his own. "The right fears us. And well they should, for the People cannot be withstood! But we need not act up to their fears; all of us, even myself, can moderate our tone somewhat, to perhaps show them that though we currently hold the power in the Second Republic, we will bring that power down only upon those truly deserving. We must be better than them. "Corruption, in all its forms, is the truest enemy of Socialism. Those who are corrupt must be rooted out. But we must be ever-vigilant in guarding against becoming corrupt ourselves. Let our leaders not become so drunk with power that they become that which they once despised. "(The FIE still has to go, however. No policeman who is afraid or ashamed to wear his badge openly deserves the name. Scum, the lot of them.)"
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Dec 24, 2011 16:19
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Santiago Casares Quiroga Minster of the Interior Director Mola is hereby ordered to comply fully with the Prime Minister's investigation. I will be directly overseeing police operations from now on, in order to further the aim of transparency in government, without jeopardizing the operations of the police and courts.
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Dec 26, 2011 12:58
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The Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista endorses the release of all evidence collected against the UGT leadership in Sevilla, as long as the release of such evidence will not jeopardize the inevitable trial and conviction against these criminals. We will not rest until the UGT bosses "Ramon del Corruptivo", "Mikey von Embezzle" and "Pedro Pendejo" are put behind bars, permanently.
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Dec 26, 2011 13:15
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gowb posted:Santiago Casares Quiroga El Director, National Police Minister, you overstep your bounds. Your Ministry does not have authority over police operations. Such authority belongs to the justice ministry. This sudden attempt to grab power from the ministry, based off spurious accusations, WELL KNOWN to be spurious as there has been not one report of bloodshed, is deeply disturbing. I call for Minister Quiroga's immediate resignation and request an immediate investigation into his motives -- to be conducted by the Civil Guard, to ensure impartiality.
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Dec 26, 2011 14:07
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Diplomaticus posted:El Director, National Police As minister of the INTERIOR, I am in charge of all national security forces, including the police. I am not taking your job, understand, I simply want you to be more proactive in reporting to me. Previously you have operated with too much freedom. I am simply enforcing the chain of command. You are quite out of line in calling for my resignation. I am your immediate superior.
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Dec 26, 2011 14:13
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