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 Major Karl Josef von Bachmann of the Swiss Guard The bleating of upstart peasants and fishmongers before their betters must stop before the miasma spreads from their unwashed, lowborn bodies and causes ill humours in the divine person of our liege! I suggest an end to this nonsense of mob rule and restoration of good, stable government. The Disband the Legislative Assembly and Behead Robespierre for his Treachery Act would remove suffrage from all but the nobleborn.
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From the desk of Robespierre Patience, my nautical friend, there will be a time and a place for everything. I do not see why we can't have both General Suffrage for the French, and Suffrage through Service to those who would fight for our cause!
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 Armand Marc, comte de Montmorin Clearly, the old way of doing things was unsustainable, and reform was necessary. That does not mean we should institute an equally unsustainable radicalism. The Suffrage Through Service Act is just the sort of reform we need— our army is in a woebegone state, and giving the men who protect France a stake in its future is an important step towards remedying that— one step among many, of course, but that is a discussion for another time. The General Suffrage Act, however, goes too far and for too little gain. A steady hand must be maintained on the tiller of state to guide it through this perilous time and into the modern era. Suddenly enfranchising the great mass of men, with no preparation or reform beforehand, is tantamount to throwing France into anarchy. It would be an unacceptably disruptive measure at this juncture.
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Louis XVI, By the Grace of God, King of France and Navarre. Suffrage through Service would have no point with Universal Suffrage. The former act rewards people who don't have enough money, but served la patrie by fighting for her. It doesn't make any sense to give away the right to vote to just everyone, even those who might use it as another opportunity to hurt France. Why would a thief have the same rights as a soldier? Also, the court chancellor prepared a draft of the budget. This is not an act, mind you, as the General-Chancellor is not yet appointed. We present it as a direction the Crown would like to take the most: quote:Payments to debt reduction per turn: 0
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From the desk of Robespierre A man may have no money, a man may be unable to fight, but he is still a man, and is deserving of the same rights as his fellow. Suffrage through Service is a potent recruiting tool, but Universal Suffrage is a moral obligation.
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Georges Cadoudal The Pamphlet "Souveraineté et le suffrage" posted:...Fellows of France, farmers, fishmongers, weavers and tradesmen, I implore you, do not listen to those vipers of Paris! They claim to give you a vote, and say they will govern in your name, but already we see their lies, and how much further will they go? They have sought the destruction of the Church! They have destroyed the ancient counties and lands our fathers and grandfathers loved so dearly, replacing them with artificial boundaries, emerging from the mind of a Parisian lawyer like Athena from Zeus! They seek to make all men Parisians, fashionable and hateful. They do not govern for you, they seek to rule you in all aspects of life, and destroy the ancient history and honor of France! Do not be swayed, friends, by their honeyed words, for in their mouths are the fangs of poisonous asps, ready to destroy those who would seek virtue before their vice! No matter what this assembly decrees, know that the Father of the Nation is our guard for true liberty, the liberty to live your life, work your trade, love your family, without having to mind some self-important lawyer who thinks he is some true son of the "Patrie." Vive la Roi!
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A page from a journal believed to have been written by Toussaint Louveture: ...rabble. My soldiers remain unable to load quickly a musket or fire in any kind of line formation, though they are more than eager to learn if given the opportunity. They are proud when entering into combat, but they are soon to flee back into the hills and jungles when the fighting becomes too rough. They are still young, and they have much to learn. There is a large plantation outside le Cap, the Cabre House, which was abandoned shortly before the revolt. The Cabres apparently were eager to educate their slaves, and they used a number of rooms in their manor as classrooms. Their former slaves' quarters could easily be converted to bunkers and the rows of unproductive coffee trees could provide plenty of space for line infantry - I have instructed my friend Étienne to be in charge of this new training ground. I sent a letter to the Spanish for more arms, which should arrive within the...
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Duke George Leveson-Gower Extracts from a letter to Edmund Burke: quote:Although your analysis of the situation seems correct to some extent, I believe that full reinstitution of the Ancien Regime is a mistake. It is this centralised nature that has led to the delusions that many with power suffer from. As we realised in 1215, absolute power only leads to ruin. It is this belief of absolute control that will lead to the situations you describe in your letters, the bloodshed and the eventual forceful takeover from within.
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 Antoine Barnave I approve of the Citizen-Soldier suffrage act as originally proposed. Granting those who serve and bleed for France the right to vote is just and proper. In addition, until the matter of a Minister of Finance is settled, we would propose the following changes to the budget proposed by the King. Manufacturing: 3/3 Agriculture: 4/4 Infrastructure: 2/6 Transportation: 0/2 Culture: 2/2 Police: 3/8 Army: 6/12 Navy: 5/10 Intelligence: 0/2 Courts: 1/1 Clergy: 1/3 Education: 0/4 Healthcare: 1/5 Colonies 6/8 Yearly Credits Free Credits: 0 Credit Income: 43 It is imperative that we address the current troubles with the state of agriculture and industry in the nation, as such matters put France's future at risk. In addition, increased funding of the Army is essential, as to give the soon to be appointed Minister of War greater resources to reform and improve the military to ensure a well defended homeland. To this end, we fully expect that his Majesty will understand that putting on hold the expansion of his estates and Palaces in order to spend the needed funds elsewhere is to guarantee a greater future for his subjects and the nation as a whole. Edit: It was pointed out to me that I missed a credit.
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 Marquis de Lafayette, Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard The United States of America is our friend in liberty, and it is vital we establish fraternal relations with that great nation. I call upon the National Assembly to pass a Free Trade Compact with America to strengthen both of our economies. Only together can our enlightened states bring about a new world freed from the burdens of history. I also suggest we reaffirm our commitment to the Treaty of Alliance so as to mutually protect one another from the predations of tyranny. I support Suffrage through Service in this time of crisis. However while I agree in spirit with General Suffrage, I believe it would be best if we waited for a more stable, less anarchic period before enacting this sweeping change. I encourage the approval of Antoine Barnave's budget.
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 Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie Extracts from a speech given in Nantes at the first meeting of the newly formed Breton Association posted:... and so, my fellow Bretons it is with great disappointment that I must call the Revolution to task for these misdeeds. The Jacobins, the former Breton Club, forget their origins of place but not their origins in Great Parisian Chauvinism; and for their allies things tend to be just as bad. So as the revolution takes on a greater and greater anti-Breton tone we are left to wonder - what is to be left of fair Brittany and whom will the more radical revolutionaries target next? Our province is abolished against our will, our homeland torn asunder; our Breton nobility robbed of their holdings and forced to flee or suffer poverty; our ancient privileges, given to us in part because of the unjust means used by France to acquire our lands and peoples many centuries before, are summarily declared null and void! And what of our church and language... they too find themselves ever the subject of threats towards their extinction from this earth. Our very nation finds itself cast out from the revolution and thus against it.
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From Comte d'Esting aboard the Method Man, First-rate, Flagship of the French Navy It seems important that our government decide on our official stance towards the Haitian rebellion. As all men are inherently equal and racism is a great evil, I suggest we immediately abolish slavery in both France and our colonies, and integrate the latter as independent states in a wider French Union. Meanwhile, I think it would be prudent if the king appointed me to the office of Minister of the Marine until a suitable civilian replacement can be found. Bavarne's budget also seems to be the best of the drafts.
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Georges CadoudalExcerpt from "Georges Cadoudal: A Life" -- "Speech to the locals of Challans, in the Vendee" posted:Friends, I know your lot, for yours is the fate of so many of us in France. Grain is scarce, your children starve, and what does the assembly do? Dither! They argue over which of the survivors of this famine will be blessed with the opportunity to serve Paris!
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 It is my great pleasure to announce the Jacobin Club has expanded to a new location, found at the corner of La Rue du Synirc and #jacobin Avenue. I invite all devoted revolutionaries to join me there.
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Marquis de Lafayette, Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard I fully support the Comte d'Esting's proposal to abolish the vile institution of slavery in the colonies. The Rights of Man have no race, color, nor creed. This will also undercut the insurrection in Saint-Domingue, for once they are embraced as true Frenchmen the negro slaves will lay down their arms and proudly return to the sugar plantations.
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 The Revolution must continue and spread, we have made ground but it must continue, we sympathise with the Jacobins, but we stand apart, through correspondence with Babeuf I declare today, the formation of a new political party, a party for those who see the struggle against bourgeois domination as important as the struggle against aristocracy, we are a party of the enraged masses, a popular front! We are the Front Des Ouvriers Enragés!
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 Turn due in twenty-one hours. The faster you get it in, the faster CVortex and I can process the turn.
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 Citizen Sade It is with great pleasure that I present my first official budget to the King and his Ministers, and to the Legislative Assembly, and my fellow citizens most importantly of all. Changes I have made are to be bold, for I am indeed a bold man, most free and liberated. quote:Contributions Directes: We will establish tariffs on the departments outlined above to ensure that France remains French, and that villains and roughly clad immigrants who sought the prosperity and peace of Gaul are not able to threaten our noble tongue. The trade deal with the Kingdom of Mysore will be concluded, granting us 2 credits of revenue in cotton, which will be of great benefit to our manufacturers of textiles. Sandalwood will go to our manufacturers of luxurious goods, reducing the prices of perfumes and sandalwood phalluses to the great pleasure of the nobility. I leave it up to the Minister of Foreign Affairs to determine exactly what shape our assistance to Mysore should take, but it seems to me that we should seek to prevent Britain from seizing all of India for themselves. All recompensation being granted to the nobility will be halted by the courts for now, as the nobility have shown their greed in the extremely audacious interest rates at which they have lent to us. No payments will be forthcoming until the nobility can agree in general to a reduction of interest rates such that the debt of France can be reduced. Especially considering that it was the nobility themselves who ran up this debt, this seems only fair that the citizens of France themselves should not be forced to pay for the excesses of the rich. Taxation on the poorest will be halted, this includes a huge percentage of the population but provides little funds. The tax on the petit bourgeoisie will be halved. The tax on the nobility equalized with that on other classes, for are not all people equal? And who is better able to shoulder the burden of taxation than the nobility? Should we not all share in France's misery equally? Thus, France's finances have been saved by de Sade! The King's court maintains a pleasant lifestyle in Versailles thanks to our generous culture grant. And we can pull back from the precipice of financial oblivion thanks to new revenue, a reorganization of funds, and new investment in manufacturing and agriculture. With the police fully funded, and our roads and infrastructure increased in quality and number, our taxation efforts will yield far more fruit, which would later be apportioned to our noble military. The agricultural investments are obviously necessary in order to reduce the price of bread and ensure that Paris is not a bastion of starving masses, a man should not be forced to labor for an entire day merely to pay for his food, with no chance to improve his situation. If you are for France, you will vote on my budget, Frenchmen. If you are for the enemies of France, then you will vote against it!
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Fall Sick and Die posted:Citizen Sade Bravo! Bravo! Despite the man's...unusual taste in apparel, such things can be overlooked when such beneficial and revolutionary work is submitted, work such as this! We starve the beast that is the nobility, hastening towards the day we are all equal! Vive le France!
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Antoine Barnave Sade's budget is certainly quite bold, though we are disappointed to see that it does not increase spending on the Army, and with these new funds he has discovered, we would also suggest investing into our Navy. As we are all well aware, many of our ships need refitting, and crews and officers need training. At the least, I strongly urge the following changes to be considered, likewise in bold. Manufacturing: 3/3 Agriculture: 4/4 Infrastructure: 4/6 Transportation: 2/2 Culture: 2/2 Police: 7/8 Army: 6/12 Navy: 6/10 Intelligence: 1/2 Courts: 1/1 Clergy: 1/3 Education: 1/4 Healthcare: 2/5 Colonies 6/8 Free Credits: 1 Credit Income: 40 The extra credit saved can be spent into buying grain from foreign markets for immediate food relief for those worst stricken by the current famine.
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Citizen Sade Why should we wish to enrich the coffers of foreign nations when our own agricultural productivity is second to none in Europe? France is a nation blessed by Nature and Providence, we can produce our own food, if our citizens are given the chance and support, the infrastructure to bring their goods to market, roads, inspectors, measuring stations, so on and so forth, et cetera. At the moment our nation is passing through a crisis, to take this time to increase the military's budget seems premature, though you will notice that we have not forgotten intelligence, as the enemies of France have not taken their eyes from us. I understand the requirements of the military, but one must see this with an eye towards the future. By taking money from the police, who enforce the collection of taxes, you lower our future revenue, which as I stated, should indeed go to repairing our military so that France might protect and enlarge its sphere of influence and see the redress of past grievances, specifically the theft of New France and the pressure being brought to bear on our colonies in India. These funds have not been 'discovered', as though they were hidden under a desk or in a closet and uncovered when one was searching for one's favorite ivory dildo. Each fund has been taken from French citizens or from the taxation of French business. We should spend them more carefully than the previous generation has done, for we are the caretakers of the Citizens of France.
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OOC: I think your budget is only 37, FSAD, because of this: "Payments to debt interest per turn: -10 credits" You don't incorporate that loss when divvying the income.
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Antoine Barnave We would not wish to enrich foreign coffers, but in this case, relief is needed immediately. I'm sure you are aware that improvements in agriculture will take time to see fruition, and in the meantime, our people are suffering now. Wouldn't it be best to provide help to the beleaguered citizens now, as opposed to letting them languish?
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Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie Petition to the King posted:Louis XVI, King of France
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From the desk of Robespierre ...In conclusion, accepting the budget of my dear colleage de Sade would prove your commitment to the ideals of the Revolution! I strongly implore you not to reject, but to embrace the budget! France will thank you. Maximilien de Robespierre
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Armand Marc, comte de Montmorin If implementing a radical reform like the Universal Suffrage Act is reckless, then implementing the budget proposed by the Marquis de Sade is an act of national suicide. The fact that the burden of paying for such a budget should fall unequally on Brittany, of all places, is proof that the Marquis is not even motivated by misguided yet genuine political sentiment, but rather the deranged and arbitrary caprices of a madman. It is becoming increasingly clear that the good "Citizen" is merely embracing the ideals of the Revolution for his own self-aggrandizement.
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 Ministre de la Justice Dear friends and comrades, The Citizen-Soldier Suffrage Act proposed by our esteemed Maréchal is a thing of beauty, I have already set my functionaries to the task of studying its legality and the prospects are good, I'm very confident it will pass by the Legislative Assembly and the texts will be done post-haste. Now, as for the Universal Suffrage... Such an idea is, to put it simply, madness. A man with no possessions and who has never fought for our great nation is simply unfit to choose his representatives, as they lack the knowledge to produce an informed vote. Maybe in a beautiful summer morning, when all adults of France can read and understand the intrincacies that go into governing glorious France, but that dawn is yet to come. I too am supportive of striking down the despicable practice of slavery, in France and in our colonies, though the specifics of such a law seem difficult my office shall be up to the task. To the ever cunning and scandalous Marquis de Sade, I approve every line of your budget, though I must question the wisdom of pressing further taxes on our Breton subjects, the rhetoric of their representative, Marquis de la Roueire, is already dangerous enough, and to further taxes upon our Breton brothers would give credibility to the cries for a "free Britanny". Let us not forget that the Act of Union between the Scot and the Anglo did not take the name Great Britain by accident, it is a fact that they intend to add "Little Britain" to their territory and so we must tread carefully. Your comrade-in-arms, Marguerite-Louis-François Duport-Dutertre P.S.: Dear de Sade, do you mean taxes upon the Breton language or are you proposing we sell the bloody tongues of Breton peasants in the world market? Surely, with your habits, you understand why one would be confused.
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I agree with Ending Slavery in the colonies, but this also must come with Independence for the colonies, Haiti in particular must become a beacon to the world as the first Black Republic!
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My dear compatriot Marguerite-Louis-François Duport-Dutertre, I offer to you my response related to your Breton Question, one of pressing importance and one you were most canny in ferreting out... though I question your reference to the Marquis de la Rouerie as a representative of the Bretons, I was not aware our nation represented local cultures and strange tongues in our assembly... merely departments like all other places in France.Gorgo Primus posted:
Allow me to quote you the words of France and our King's most loyal subjects, the Breton 'nation' represented by the Marquis de la Rouerie... in case you have forgotten them, made so recently... quote:So as the revolution takes on a greater and greater anti-Breton tone we are left to wonder - what is to be left of fair Brittany and whom will the more radical revolutionaries target next? Our province is abolished against our will, our homeland torn asunder; our Breton nobility robbed of their holdings and forced to flee or suffer poverty; our ancient privileges, given to us in part because of the unjust means used by France to acquire our lands and peoples many centuries before, are summarily declared null and void! And what of our church and language... they too find themselves ever the subject of threats towards their extinction from this earth. Our very nation finds itself cast out from the revolution and thus against it. I must state that as to Liberty or Death, I am certainly a true believer, apart from the Death portion. Bretagne Libre? Now we start to head into more controversial territory. And as for Breizh dieub, I must admit that I'm fully flummoxed, I'd be hard pressed to discern if that is a true language or merely the caterwaulings of the assembled drunkards and fools who attend such rallies. Who or what are these Bretons, if we even should admit the existence of such a nation? From their self-proclaimed leaders words, I would take them for the most parasitic, opportunistic race outside of Judea. They support France, unless France doesn't do what they want, in which case they will attack France. I did not hear these 'Frenchmen' speak to their own people once of France except as the source of all their difficulties and travails! As Libertinous a man as myself this world has never seen, but even I must recognize that the great nation of France can not be held hostage to the demands of a microscopic minority. When the people of Bretagne are willing to put the -true- nation before their own local interests then they shall be treated like any other people in France. Until then I say, if the Bretons have no bread, let them eat their own tongue.
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Nicolas Lucknerquote:Trade Deals: Kingdom of Mysore quote:Trade Deals: None I do not mean to insult, but the matter of the Kingdom of Mysore has has yet to be bought to the legislature. While I am not adverse to the idea of support, without an order I can not do so. Also, I would like to remind everyone that we would support them against the British, who could surely crush us on a mere whim. Personally, I advise against the raising or lowering of taxes until we gain the ability to tax efficiently. The fact we are collecting taxes at all is a miracle, we should not tempt fate by changing the values unnecessarily until we have the ability to enforce these changes. OOC: Are budgets voted on, or does the Controller-General of Finances/Prime Minister just declare what the budget will be?
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Citizen Sade Before our next legislative assembly period, I'd like to make the following proposals. The Saint Domingue Independence Act When one smaller class of people thoroughly oppresses a larger, and the oppressed class has reached a level of consciousness which enables them to understand their oppressed nature, it is impossible for the smaller class to dominate the larger. This is as true of the slave-master relationship as it is of the peasant-noble relationship. Let us not waste the lives of our military to molder in the rotting and fetid jungles of Saint Domingue, some of our most promising flowers of French nobility, some possessed of tremendous and sharp... talents, to die of fever and poisonous swamp vapors. The slaves of the island will need to sell their produce. Let us offer a truce to Louverture, those French plantation owners who wish to remain might remain with their workers liberated under whatever government the majority will establish, though I would advise them to instead make their way to Louisiana. This act would provide for the safety of French citizens who wished to depart as well as those who wished to remain, and the compensation of the French state for the loss of funds in return for recognition of their independence and allowing them to pursue their new nation unmolested. The Franco-Mysorian Treaty of Friendship And Mutual Assistance In exchange for their cotton and sandalwood trade commodities (which would be quite beneficial to our own industry), the French military will put together a group of officers, expert craftsmen and disabled veterans to form the core of a new Indian army for Tipu Sultan. They would focus on training and establishing a sustainable and modern armed force. The army would be fully under Tipu Sultan's own command and would not represent the foreign policy of France. While Mysore is currently engaged in their third war against Britain, we're in no position to support them, however it is unfeasible to think Britain will annex Mysore wholly, we must prepare to win the fourth war rather than waste our men and equipment trying to prevent them from losing the third! To naysayers I would proclaim, are wars anything but the means whereby a nation is nourished, whereby it is strengthened, whereby it is buttressed? Emigre Divestment Act All those nobility who have emigrated from France and support anti-government groups within the nation would forfeit their property, titles and any debt owed to them, as would any who defect from the armed services. I would request that all radicals and proponents of a strong French nation support these acts! I would also proclaim my own support for the General Suffrage Act. The logic behind the Suffrage through Service act seems to be that men will fight and die to gain suffrage and be considered a true citizen of the French nation. But what I say instead is that men who -have- suffrage and are considered true citizens will be all the more willing to fight for the French nation! In addition, I announce the formation of Le Libertin, a new radical newspaper appealing to the men and women of Paris and the nation, with writings from some of the most prominent Jacobins, but as a journal which as an exemplar of freedom and liberty, will publish any articles by those who would wish to make their case known to the French people. Besides articles, philosophical musings, ramblings and serialized stories, it will contain engraved images of the female and male form engaged in open copulation. In order to know virtue, we must first acquaint ourselves with vice!
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 An official statement from the representative of His Majesty George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, and so forth I am most disappointed to see that the French executive has taken further leave of its senses. Need I remind you that the British East India Company and its allies are in occupation of much of Mysore, including all of its coastal ports. At the moment no trade may occur with out the Company's permission. Attempting to establish trade relations with this state can only harm international free trade, as the United Kingdom may be forced to take action. I find it difficult to take your proposals to send army officers seriously - such an action taken while an emanation of His Majesty's power is in a state of war would surely cause a situation most tense. Need I remind everyone of the recent Declaration of Pillnitz? God save the King! In later statements to diplomats Duke Leveson-Gower expressed his support for the abolition of the slave trade, citing it as a cause "dear to his heart" and not at all because many of his closest business rivals profited greatly from the slave trade.
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Robespierre's Most Virtuous Plans for Legislation My dear friends, this is what I support: Budget: De Sades - We take from the bloated aristocrats, we expand trade, we revitalize our economy and we see peace. I heartily endorse it. Proposals The General Suffrage Act: All men are equal, and thus should have an equal say in the affairs of state. A land or wealth requirement for the franchise simply creates a new aristocracy! The Citizen-Soldier Act: I hope this Act will not be necessary with the passage of the previous one, but should the King unwisely and dangerously veto the will of the people thus, some expansion of the franchise is better than none. Ending Slavery: All men are equal. Need more be said? Emigre Divestment Act: Let those who would flee the Revolution contribute in other ways! The Saint Domingue Liberation Act: An amendmended act - the slaves just want their freedom, last I checked. A pointless war for little gain. Let us embrace them as brothers in the revolution, grant them their freedom, and use the resources we would waste their to develop both Metropolitan France and our other colonies in the Caribbean! Now to the matters which I oppose: Freeing the colonies: An essential part of France, and a key chain in our economy. Freeing them now is hasty and unwise. I vigorously oppose. To the other proposals, I will make no comment. May you all choose virtuously.
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Nicolas Luckner Regardless of Legislature power, I must be commanded before troops are deployed anywhere. As the King has not commanded me, it falls to the Prime Minister to do so. In this instance, he has ordered that no troops be deployed to either Mysore or Haiti.
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Upon being told the French legislature was considering acts that would affect the future of Haiti, Toussaint Louveture said the following outside the siege of Le Cap: We are a people who have been born into slavery, but nature has given us the souls of free men. An abolishing of the vile institution will go a long way to advance the causes of Justice, but we cannot be free men in a nation ruled by our former slavemasters. Liberty and Equality are the goals in St Dominigue; in order for there to be liberty the colonial administration must be dismantled, and in order for there to be equality slavery must be eliminated.
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 The United States would like to remind you that our two countries are united together in friendship by our burning love of Liberty. When a friend acts foolishly, it is the duty of the more clear-headed friend to correct the error. This loose talk about emancipating the slaves of Haiti should be tabled, and instead efforts must be made to restore public order in Haiti. The situation as it stands now is that a gang of Negroes are rioting and murdering your citizens within your colony. If the government's response is to grant them emancipation instead of punishment, the government would be saying that it cares little for justice and for the lives lost in the uprising. The precedent would be set that any minority, whether Negro, Jew, Breton, or anyone else, can impact government policy through bloodshed. I know that many of you have stood by General Washington and my countrymen, and I know that your people are not cowardly. Whatever the ultimate decision regarding emancipation may be, it is necessary that you suppress the uprising and restore public order in your colony before making it.
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Comte d'Esting The Americans don't even want to free slaves? What a bunch of fuckin' bustas, what a bunch of poseurs, don't even want to grant freedom to an entire race of people.
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Major von Bachmann, Swiss Guard I am sure I speak for many nobles when I say it is my fervent desire to see all men freed from the shackles of slavery. They should rightfully be villeins, tied to their lands in rustic harmony with their Lords protecting them and nurturing them with noblesse oblige. Their devotion to the high-born will be tenfold that they displayed towards upstart merchants and shopkeepers. What does a capitalist know of ruling men? He has no soul! We should invite cadet branches of noble African houses to Haiti to bring them the stability of feudalism. Perhaps Tekle Giyorgis of the Ethiopian Empire could spare us a brother to become Duke of Haiti?
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We're not opposed in principle to emancipation - all peoples should have the right to determine their own future. But it does not seem like a wise policy to, upon finding a man in the midst of committing some great crime, say to him, "the law does not apply to you; you are freed". There may be a time and a place for entertaining the noble sentiment of emancipating the Negro, but my government feels that this is not it.
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Marquis de Lafayette, Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard While I firmly believe in the abolition of slavery, I agree with our brothers in America that bowing to the savage insurrectionists in St Dominigue by granting them independence is rash indeed. We can both end slavery and maintain the colonial authority. The plantations cannot be allowed to burn - instead let us put down this rabble and restore the natural order through a tenant system, where the Negro is paid a fair wage (and must pay a fair rent) for his labor in the cane fields. For this gracious offer a debt shall be levied against each freed man equal to his former market value, to be paid to his previous master. Liberty will be his, and so he will have no reason to take up arms against France, while the inherent right to property will be respected. I humbly advise our Majesty to deploy the Reglement to deal with Toussaint's bandits.
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